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I understand that answers to this question are not easily obtained, but your expert opinion is valuable.
Now that lower than risk yields (-20%) are passing for “generally acceptable” HVM yields (+70%), for political, marketing, and besting the competition reasons, at least, I’m sure many readers would love to have information on the historical and probable future node yields from Intel, Samsung, and TSMC.
Further, IMO, investors and foundry clients should have the right to know the true yields, as it can comparatively help to determine competence and value.
Especially since we now know that Samsung has admitted to falsifying yields on their 4nm and 3nm nodes and possible larger nodes as well. When investors and foundry clients learned the truth, many severed ties.
Maybe voluntary independent auditing should become a thing.
I have a strong feeling that the pressure Intel is under, least of which may be their very existence, may have been miraculously resolved (5 nodes in 4 years), by deciding to release nodes with less that “generally acceptable” yields.
Intel has apparently released 10nm chips with ~20% yields and was discussed here at SemiWiki.
https://semiwiki.com/forum/index.ph...estion-about-the-10nm-yield.13594/#post-45170
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tough...production-outsourcing-and-more.509532.0.html
Now that lower than risk yields (-20%) are passing for “generally acceptable” HVM yields (+70%), for political, marketing, and besting the competition reasons, at least, I’m sure many readers would love to have information on the historical and probable future node yields from Intel, Samsung, and TSMC.
Further, IMO, investors and foundry clients should have the right to know the true yields, as it can comparatively help to determine competence and value.
Especially since we now know that Samsung has admitted to falsifying yields on their 4nm and 3nm nodes and possible larger nodes as well. When investors and foundry clients learned the truth, many severed ties.
Maybe voluntary independent auditing should become a thing.
I have a strong feeling that the pressure Intel is under, least of which may be their very existence, may have been miraculously resolved (5 nodes in 4 years), by deciding to release nodes with less that “generally acceptable” yields.
Intel has apparently released 10nm chips with ~20% yields and was discussed here at SemiWiki.
https://semiwiki.com/forum/index.ph...estion-about-the-10nm-yield.13594/#post-45170
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tough...production-outsourcing-and-more.509532.0.html