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5G heating up faster than expected

I assume this ACTUALLY means that they plan to roll out their advertising for "whatever our current network is, we're now calling it 5G"...
As far as I can tell there are, right now, no STANDARDS for 5G, just a bunch of wishlists.
So we're supposed to assume that, over a period of say 2.5 years, we're going to go from standards definition to tech implemented to deployment?

That sounds, uhhh, unlikely, ...
 
name99 said:
I assume this ACTUALLY means that they plan to roll out their advertising for "whatever our current network is, we're now calling it 5G"...
As far as I can tell there are, right now, no STANDARDS for 5G, just a bunch of wishlists.
So we're supposed to assume that, over a period of say 2.5 years, we're going to go from standards definition to tech implemented to deployment?

That sounds, uhhh, unlikely, ...
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Well 3GPP, QCOM and others might disagree with you. Of course at some level everything is marketing (Moore's law for example) but when enough competitive action builds around an idea, wishes have a tendency to come true...
 
Here's what 3GPP has to say:
mid 2016: 3GPP on track to 5G
"has agreed on a detailed workplan for Release-15, the first release of 5G specifications"

In other words --- we have a plan for how we will do the work to create the 5G spec...

Most recently: http://www.3gpp.org/release-15
"By the second half of 2017 the focus of our work will shift to Release 15, to deliver the first set of 5G standards"

That matches what I said. The specs aren't even defined yet.
If T-Mobile (or anyone else) want to call whatever they have running in 2019 "5G", they are welcome to do so. But the rest of us are justified in mocking them, unless there is SOMETHING to justify the claim.


In the case of the early 4G claims that referred to advanced WCMDA rather than LTE, there was some such justification. End-stage WCDMA, with MIMO and advanced modulation, really was a substantial improvement over the initial 3G WCDMA rollout, so I was willing to accept the 4G hyperbole as more or less justified.

I'm not as convinced in the case of 5G. Even if T-Mobile has, for example, a bunch of SON features in their network, those are not using-facing and don't *obviously* translate into a better user experience, which means that calling something 5G when it looks and feels to the user exactly like the 4G of the past five years is not justified --- not on technical grounds, not on "user-experience" grounds.
 
There are two sides to 5G:

(1) new radio to get the bits and bytes between the handset and the tower more efficiently (lower frequencies for bigger cells in sparsely-populated areas, higher frequencies for high-bit-rate small cells in densely-populated areas, better signal-to-noise): there's been work going on for a while, including Verizon's trial in the US and KT reckoning to have something up and running for the Seoul Olympics next January

(2) new protocols to make better use of those bits and bytes (it's reckoned that currently 50% is overhead, things like TCP ACK packets, and the current system also can't deliver the service needed for some of the new verticals proposed for 5G in areas such latency and security): 3GPP is only just starting to look at that and may well not standardise it until Release 16.
 
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