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TSMC’s $100bn pledge to Donald Trump will not revive US chipmaking, says ex-Intel chief

fansink said:
TSMC already has a "leading edge" (4nm) satellite R&D at Fab 21 in Arizona.
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You lost all credibility with this one, LOL.

If RD is the incremental improvements in tools, process and simplification or enhancement of process than as another poster said already expected of all manufacturing fabs.

Let you in on a secret they’ve been doing in TSMC Washington Camas site for a long time
 
BruceA said:
You lost all credibility with this one, LOL.

If RD is the incremental improvements in tools, process and simplification or enhancement of process than as another poster said already expected of all manufacturing fabs.

Let you in on a secret they’ve been doing in TSMC Washington Camas site for a long time
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Whether intentional, or not, perhaps you missed this earlier statement:

TSMC has 3 primary R&D centers located in Hsinchu, Taiwan (Global R&D Center and Fab 12 R&D component) and Tsukuba, Japan (Japan 3DIC R&D Center), with 1 additional U.S. R&D center planned (location TBD). Additionally, there are 6 satellite R&D sites integrated within production fabs: Fab 14 (Tainan, Taiwan), Fab 15 (Taichung, Taiwan), Fab 18 (Tainan, Taiwan), Fab 20 (Hsinchu, Taiwan), Nanjing Fab (Nanjing, China), including a satellite R&D office at Fab 21 in Arizona.

The satellite R&D sites supplement localized process work, while the primary R&D Centers drive broader innovation.
 
fansink said:
Whether intentional, or not, perhaps you missed this earlier statement:

TSMC has 3 primary R&D centers located in Hsinchu, Taiwan (Global R&D Center and Fab 12 R&D component) and Tsukuba, Japan (Japan 3DIC R&D Center), with 1 additional U.S. R&D center planned (location TBD). Additionally, there are 6 satellite R&D sites integrated within production fabs: Fab 14 (Tainan, Taiwan), Fab 15 (Taichung, Taiwan), Fab 18 (Tainan, Taiwan), Fab 20 (Hsinchu, Taiwan), Nanjing Fab (Nanjing, China), including a satellite R&D office at Fab 21 in Arizona.

The satellite R&D sites supplement localized process work, while the primary R&D Centers drive broader innovation.
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Good you can educate me on the press release. All the real RD is done in Taiwan. Till Fab21 is the last fab doing the node will the real work happen there, LOL
 
BruceA said:
Good you can educate me on the press release. All the real RD is done in Taiwan. Till Fab21 is the last fab doing the node will the real work happen there, LOL
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Man, you are ruining it. People from Washington DC read SemiWiki.

It is a box check situation:

Do you have R&D is the US?

Yes sir we do. We have the brightest minds in Arizona working on some very hard problems that are critical to AI and National Security.

Fabulous, thank you for your service. Here is another $10B of taxpayer money to do more of what you said you do.


:ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO:
 
Daniel Nenni said:
Man, you are ruining it. People from Washington DC read SemiWiki.

It is a box check situation:

Do you have R&D is the US?

Yes sir we do. We have the brightest minds in Arizona working on some very hard problems that are critical to AI and National Security.

Fabulous, thank you for your service. Here is another $10B of taxpayer money to do more of what you said you do.


:ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL: :ROFLMAO:
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Where is the barf reaction when we really need it? 🤮
 
Trump talked about US fabs are "leading tech node" ,
while Taiwan president talked about keeping "leading tech node" in Taiwan.
Be assured both have the political reasons to say so.
Currently ambiguity works for both parties.

But what is the truth? Only CC Wei and the leadership can know,
or after few years some engineers will get the news leaked out...
 
sonchoy said:
Dan, TSMC will NOT be moving leading edge R&D to the US, period.

In short, "Development" stays in Taiwan; "Refine and Optimize" can go elsewhere.
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Agreed. I said the R&D team in AZ would support manufacturing, they will not be developing new process technology in the US. Once the technology gets here they work closely with customers and Taiwan R&D to optimize it. That is the way it has always been done. Intel is no different, the whole copy exact thing, right?
 
Daniel Nenni said:
Agreed. I said the R&D team in AZ would support manufacturing, they will not be developing new process technology in the US. Once the technology gets here they work closely with customers and Taiwan R&D to optimize it. That is the way it has always been done. Intel is no different, the whole copy exact thing, right?
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Intel's Node R&D is US though as for Copy exactly many companies use it now it's not exclusive to Intel even though they invented it.
 
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