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The winner of the worst mainstream press article award regarding the semi industry in 2024?

blueone

Well-known member
This CNBC article just snuck in on the last day of the year, and it took two authors to write it, but it is my candidate for the worst semiconductor industry article for 2024.


It's so bad it took me three attempts at reading it to get all the way through it.

The article implies the chips Broadcom does the analog designs and foundry management stages for the cloud computing companies are Broadcom designs, which is nonsense. Not that the analog work isn't important, it is critical, but the wording of this paragraph implies these are Broadcom products. They aren't. Broadcom is a subcontractor, albeit a very important one that clearly adds a lot of value.

What’s exciting Wall Street is Broadcom’s role working with cloud providers to build custom chips for AI. The company’s XPUs are generally simpler and less expensive to operate than Nvidia’s GPUs, and they’re designed to run specific AI programs efficiently.

Not only is this description technically incorrect, but it shows the authors have no idea what they're talking about. And then they quote some industry analysts who don't know what they're talking about either.

Cloud vendors and other large internet companies are spending billions of dollars a year on Nvidia’s GPUs so they can build their own models and run AI workloads for customers. Broadcom’s success with custom chips is setting up an AI spending showdown with Nvidia, as hyperscale cloud companies look to differentiate their products and services from their rivals.

Broadcom’s chips aren’t for everyone, as only a handful of companies can afford to design and build their own custom processors.

“You have to be a Google, you have to be a Meta, you have to be a Microsoft or an Oracle to be able to use those chips,” Piper Sandler analyst Harsh Kumar told CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street” on Dec. 13, a day after Broadcom’s earnings. “These chips are not meant for everybody.”

Ridiculous. You can go to Google Cloud's webpages and see that anyone can lease time on a Google Cloud TPU system:


And you can see from the broadcom.com web page that Broadcom lists exactly zero AI products. No XPUs at all. What these authors don't comprehend is that what Broadcom is doing is subcontracted work in selected phases of chip development, not developing chips. It is obviously a very good business, and that makes sense, because if you're really doing very few chip designs per year, like the cloud vendors, you're probably not going to keep your analog and manufacturing interface people busy enough to justify the cost of in-house groups. Is this business relationship really that difficult to explain?

But even an article this bad has one quote that was worth reading farther down for:

Late next year, Intel will release a new AI chip that it codenamed Falcon Shores. It won’t be built on Gaudi 3 architecture, and will instead be a GPU.

“Is it going to be wonderful? No, but it is a good first step in getting the platform done,” Intel interim co-CEO Michelle Holthaus said at a financial conference held by Barclays on Dec. 12.

Seriously, Ms. Holthaus? Admitting Falcon Shores won't be wonderful, but you're spending a boatload of R&D funds on it? And you expect customers to want to buy it? Amazing. I couldn't make this stuff up.
 
When an article starts out with stuff like "The driving force behind the diverging narratives was artificial intelligence." you know it's in with a shout. It's all about the narratives these days.

Doesn't reading this sort of thing remind you of the story about people getting share tips from shoeshine boys on Wall Street in 1929 ?
 
This CNBC article just snuck in on the last day of the year, and it took two authors to write it, but it is my candidate for the worst semiconductor industry article for 2024.


It's so bad it took me three attempts at reading it to get all the way through it.

The article implies the chips Broadcom does the analog designs and foundry management stages for the cloud computing companies are Broadcom designs, which is nonsense. Not that the analog work isn't important, it is critical, but the wording of this paragraph implies these are Broadcom products. They aren't. Broadcom is a subcontractor, albeit a very important one that clearly adds a lot of value.



Not only is this description technically incorrect, but it shows the authors have no idea what they're talking about. And then they quote some industry analysts who don't know what they're talking about either.



Ridiculous. You can go to Google Cloud's webpages and see that anyone can lease time on a Google Cloud TPU system:


And you can see from the broadcom.com web page that Broadcom lists exactly zero AI products. No XPUs at all. What these authors don't comprehend is that what Broadcom is doing is subcontracted work in selected phases of chip development, not developing chips. It is obviously a very good business, and that makes sense, because if you're really doing very few chip designs per year, like the cloud vendors, you're probably not going to keep your analog and manufacturing interface people busy enough to justify the cost of in-house groups. Is this business relationship really that difficult to explain?

But even an article this bad has one quote that was worth reading farther down for:



Seriously, Ms. Holthaus? Admitting Falcon Shores won't be wonderful, but you're spending a boatload of R&D funds on it? And you expect customers to want to buy it? Amazing. I couldn't make this stuff up.
 
The article implies the chips Broadcom does the analog designs and foundry management stages for the cloud computing companies are Broadcom designs, which is nonsense.

The article never mentions analog at all. Why make that up ?
 
The article never mentions analog at all. Why make that up ?
I know, and I apologize for the confusing wording of that sentence. The part that is nonsense is where the article implies that the overall digital designs are Broadcom's, and they aren't. I do suspect that some or all these custom chips use some Broadcom IP though, for stuff like PCIe and Ethernet (especially especially Ethernet PHYs and MACs).
 
Not sure how it works today, But back when I was working on custom chips for a storage manufacturer. The Chip was custom for the storage company and had its marking, it was codesigned by LSI Logic using their IP. They outsourced it to TSMC for Fab and ASE for packaging. MOST of the chip was LSI Logic IP. I assume broadcom does this for some people today.... so "who designs the chip" may be confusing.

That said, I would trust an article from the UK Sun or Hollywood Insider magazine before I would trust most mainstream media on tech
 
Not sure how it works today, But back when I was working on custom chips for a storage manufacturer. The Chip was custom for the storage company and had its marking, it was codesigned by LSI Logic using their IP. They outsourced it to TSMC for Fab and ASE for packaging. MOST of the chip was LSI Logic IP. I assume broadcom does this for some people today.... so "who designs the chip" may be confusing.
Agreed, but that's not what Google and Amazon does, for example. Those two employ a lot of logic designers, and they extensively patent the designs for their AI chips. I have no doubt that Broadcom has some of the premier SERDES and PHY technology and IP available, and all of the AI chip designs need that stuff, and I don't see any sign that Google, Amazon, or Microsoft are trying to innovate in those areas of I/O. Google is an exception for optical MEMS-based switches and quantum chips (which they fab themselves), but even for that stuff it wouldn't surprise me if they used tight partnerships.

One thing that hasn't changed in decades is that having high-priced specialized engineers on your staff that you can't keep fully utilized is dumb. Even Intel used to have centralized "back-end" teams to take over when the RTL was ready. I can't imagine that Google, Amazon, and Microsoft have enough designs in their pipeline to warrant even one full-time back-end team.
That said, I would trust an article from the UK Sun or Hollywood Insider magazine before I would trust most mainstream media on tech
Yup.
 
Not sure how it works today, But back when I was working on custom chips for a storage manufacturer. The Chip was custom for the storage company and had its marking, it was codesigned by LSI Logic using their IP. They outsourced it to TSMC for Fab and ASE for packaging. MOST of the chip was LSI Logic IP. I assume broadcom does this for some people today.... so "who designs the chip" may be confusing.

That said, I would trust an article from the UK Sun or Hollywood Insider magazine before I would trust most mainstream media on tech

Especially if the Sun had the article on Page 3!!!
 
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