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What is the difference between intern and apprentice?
I had no money to pay IBM, and IBM made good money out of what I did for them right out of high school. I was already self taught in electronics and programming using a combination of salvage and school club activity. As an intern I worked 16 hour days for them. You were imagining I had time to be an apprentice bricklayer on the side? In my spare time I studied.
Well, you could ask talented poor youth to find money to pay you. Seems a waste of their time and talent. If you are as good as you say, you can profit from their talent even after paying them. Less waste, more recruits.
My definition of an intern: Has credentials, but they need to learn before they can effectively get proprietary designs or code working. They are not on payroll.
My definition of apprentices is the same as above, but without the proper credentials (as per what the industry says). The need to be trained in a new career.
Some get put onto payroll (and ISOs) immediately. Some take 2 months. Some take 3 months. Basically, whenever they can contribute, they get paid. If they get onto a revenue producing project, the MUST get paid. That is the law. In your example, IBM relied on you to get revenue, so you legally must get paid.
If they are good enough to contribute, I will pay them more than what others would, since I wouldn't want to lose them. This is how capitalism works.
The only thing unusual that I am doing is that I have no confidence in the universities. I do not share the same opinion as Dan. I have been running a very high tech EDA company for 20 years now, and before that I managed small circuit design teams (player-coach) for 15-20 years before that, and had lots of new graduates, including MIT and others.
The university system is getting worse. The number of years to get a PhD is growing with inflation. My recent experience of MSEEs involve international students that get their BSEEs outside of the US. My corporate experience was a more diverse assortment.
Taxpayer dollars are being wasted by the scammers, namby pambies, and those who feel the need to be spoon fed.
My definition of an intern: Has credentials, but they need to learn before they can effectively get proprietary designs or code working. They are not on payroll.
My definition of apprentices is the same as above, but without the proper credentials (as per what the industry says). The need to be trained in a new career.
