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Taiwan has upped the ante in the cold war over chips

hist78

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"The difference between the US and Taiwan is that the US can restrict, but Taiwan can halt. When the world’s most dangerous chokepoint in chip supply is no longer passive, it holds the power to redefine the global technological hierarchy."

For over a decade, the United States has been in a chip cold war with the familiar arsenal. The blacklisting, export control, and extraterritorial rules (all the staples of Washington’s worn-out playbook) were meant to help China deny access to critical technologies and stop the emergence of technical capabilities. The food stall never came.

In response, restrictions have become increasingly serious. According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, the US government is currently weighing more restrictions in China, including revoking the exemption that allows global chipmakers to access US technology in their China-based businesses.

Meanwhile, China continues to move forward. Local tech giant Huawei was blacklisted in 2019. China’s largest chip maker, Smic, continued production despite sanctions, shocked the industry in 2022 by using advanced 7-nanometer technology to manufacture chips. According to Consultancy TechInsights, the leap from 14 nanometers took just two years. It’s faster than Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturers and Samsung.

Most impressive is the Ascend 910C, produced by Huawei’s latest AI chip, Smic. The chip began moving Nvidia’s products in China, bringing Nvidia’s local market share from 95% to 50%. Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang called US export control a failure in China, losing billions of dollars in sales to American companies.

But while US policies continue to dominate the headlines, the most structurally important move in the chip war will come from Taipei, not from Washington. Taiwan has blacklisted China’s leading high-tech groups Huawei and Smic. Under existing regulations, Taiwanese companies must obtain a license before shipping their products to newly listed entities.

This shows a dramatic departure from Taiwan’s historical approach. For years, it maintained a careful balance and supplied chips to the world – producing more than 90% of the world’s most sophisticated chips through TSMC, but avoiding direct conflict with China. Part of that suppression came from economic necessity. China remains Taiwan’s biggest trading partner. Approximately a third of Taiwan’s $152.7 billion chip output will go to China and Hong Kong.

The other parts were strategic attention. Taiwan has been on a diplomatic tightrope for a long time. The direct conflict with China, particularly through unilateral sanctions, risked causing economic or military retaliation. However, Taipei’s strategy is changing as China’s military pressure on Taiwan is intensifying and the technological sector is beginning to fuse more closely with state power.

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Taiwan’s new entity list will not immediately disrupt Chinese companies. Many Taiwanese companies have local subsidiaries beyond their jurisdiction in mainland China and Taipei. Additionally, existing contracts will not be reverted. But its importance lies in what makes it possible for future possibilities. Taiwan’s movement is at the heart of the chip supply chain, which means it has unique weight. Unlike the US, Taiwan directly controls the companies that supply China’s chip inputs, so there is no need to persuade them to comply with other countries.

Timing is particularly sensitive for China. Huawei’s AI chip is considered a rival to Nvidia, but its progress is far more vulnerable than it appears. For example, Huawei’s latest MateBook Fold Computer runs on chips created using Smic’s 7-nanometer technology, according to TechInsights. This was once a milestone in China’s domestic chipmaking, but there are chips in three generations of the 2-nanometer process, which TSMC is expected to start mass production later this year.

Until now, despite sanctions, that level of technology has been sufficient to keep China competitive. Beijing can be compensated by deploying far more old chips, backed by cheap energy and brute force scaling of production. But that workaround has lost traction as more advanced chips become standard in an unauthorized world.

The lag is expanding and may be too wide to close Taiwan’s chip infrastructure and critical inputs without access. More than a technical barrier, it is the broader chipmaking ecosystem that Taiwan has built for over 40 years and cannot be replicated.

The difference between the US and Taiwan is that the US can limit it, but Taiwan can stop it. If the world’s most dangerous chokepoint in chip supply is no longer passive, it has the power to redefine the global technology hierarchy.

 
So as an illustration, if I understand this correctly:
CXMT produces HBM2e for Accend 910C, a Huawei/SMIC production, creating a full stack for AI in China, and sanction-proof.
However, there are other chips in the "broader chipmaking ecosystem that Taiwan has built for over 40 years and cannot be replicated" which will now be sanctioned and will now stop China AI development?

This begs the question, what chips are those?
 
billions of 2nm chips and beyond? Did you watch 007 spy movies and look at those East-Germany cars? Did you still use cell phone from last century or 14.4K modem? When H/W is built, APPs will come. The concept of the whole computer industry has not made any break-through during the last 50 years. Think about it. Internet, AI, Google (search), FB, CPU/GPU, vector parallel processing etc, nothing new compared with 50 years ago, except pretty GUI and faster processing speed because of H/W progress. Ugly car is still car and Snail computer is still computer.

Let China build its whole stacks of technologies. Let China re-invent the wheel. Level the playing field. That's the REAL competition, no matter who wins at last. Actually during the last 2000-3000 years, had China invented anything? At least, Calculus, the fundamental of today's technologies, was invented by the Western civilization.
 
Let China build its whole stacks of technologies. Let China re-invent the wheel. Level the playing field. That's the REAL competition, no matter who wins at last. Actually during the last 2000-3000 years, had China invented anything? At least, Calculus, the fundamental of today's technologies, was invented by the Western civilization.

Fundamentally agree more competition= good, but the playing field is never level with China. IP theft is a feature not a bug, and the government regularly subsidizes industries to the point they become defacto monopolies globally.

China invented the thing that has powered the US economy since the Constitution was signed -- gunpowder.
 
"The difference between the US and Taiwan is that the US can restrict, but Taiwan can halt. When the world’s most dangerous chokepoint in chip supply is no longer passive, it holds the power to redefine the global technological hierarchy."
I appreciate the article and topic post.

I think a wearkness of this calculation is ignoring South Korea entirely. SK is the world's memory superpower (where memory capacity and bandwidth seems more important than raw compute for AI as compared to traditional workloads which are often more compute focused).

I also think the 'losing ground' argument is a bit soft too. Manufacturing nodes are no longer improving that fast in terms of perf/watt or density (N-2 or N-3 today = N-1 from 20 years ago). A lot of optimization is still to be had in software (see Deepseek-R1 as a good example), and it's not like 2-3 year old hardware can't continually be bought used from hundreds of sources for a better price than new hardware.

What we're calling "AI" today is too far out of the bag for China's 'deficit' to increase signifcantly: they have expertise, have demonstrated some innovations of their own, and the world is a big place to source equipment from. Stalin getting the nuke in 1953, 8 years after the US, didn't really make a difference in the grand scheme of time.

(This all said - I think we should take action to slow down the adoption of certain tech with China given the IP theft and other US/Taiwan-centric reasons, but it's only a very temporary "fix").
 
Even GPU is NOT a new concept. Anybody hear of Evans & Sutherland PS 300? It's a Graphic Engine interconnected with VAX CPU in the early '80.
I wonder how many GUPs one PS300 can buy in Today's money?

 
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