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SMIC’s Nvidia-beating 120% stock rally faces chip war threats

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(Bloomberg) — Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp.’s (0981.HK) stock has more than doubled over the past two months on an expected boost from China’s self-reliance push, even amid risks tied to competition and geopolitical tensions.

Shanghai-listed shares of China’s largest outsourced chipmaker are up 120% from a September low, trouncing global sector names including Nvidia Corp. (NVDA) and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSM). The mainland stock has outperformed SMIC’s Hong Kong shares by almost 50 percentage points, underscoring stronger demand from onshore Chinese investors.

Expectations for Donald Trump’s presidency have pumped up shares of SMIC and local peers as beneficiaries of China’s drive to localize manufacturing. Some analysts and fund managers caution that the stocks now look expensive, while China’s chip industry faces ongoing issues of economic malaise and restricted access to crucial technologies.

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“There is a lot of speculative buying and the trading is based on news events instead of fundamentals,” so volatility should be expected, said Xiang Xiaotian, a director at Shanghai Chengzhou Investment Management Co. “The main trading thesis is domestic substitution as Chinese companies will need to turn to local chipmakers.”

China has been outspending other nations on chips as it struggles to narrow the wide technology gap with Western nations. Expected benefits from Beijing’s latest pledges of stimulus have served as an additional catalyst for SMIC and domestic peers including Hua Hong Semiconductor Ltd., whose onshore shares are up 78% from their September low.

SMIC forecast higher-than-expected sales growth for this quarter as its competitive prices lured local chip designers, according to Bloomberg Intelligence. More broadly, China foundries “bottomed out earlier” than other global manufacturers of less-advanced chips, Counterpoint Research wrote in a note in August.

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Even if demand for these so-called legacy semiconductors used in auto and industrial applications improves, however, China remains far behind in AI and other advanced areas due to US-led restrictions that prevent it from acquiring the most advanced manufacturing equipment. For example, Huawei Technologies Co.’s ambitions to create more powerful chips have hit major snags because of US sanctions, people familiar with the matter said.

“Artificial intelligence is a small blessing for SMIC and Hua Hong,” Morningstar Inc. analyst Phelix Lee wrote in a report. The pair may not be moving quickly enough to capture demand for high-end power chips used in data centers, he said, adding that if Chinese AI startups lose access to advanced processors that would also hurt demand for peripheral chips supplied by SMIC and Hua Hong.

Meanwhile, SMIC’s outsized share-price gain is likely to drive increased scrutiny of its earnings and other metrics. Some observers also note the potential for rivals such as TSMC to lower prices for making legacy chips, putting pressure on SMIC’s pricing power.

“We acknowledge the stronger localization demand and gross margin sustainability of SMIC,” Morgan Stanley analysts including Charlie Chan wrote in a note. “However, we believe the competition from foundries may get more intense in 2025. In addition, SMIC’s trading valuation does not look attractive to us.”

The Hong Kong-listed stock is trading at a forward price-to-book ratio of 1.2 times, above its three-year average level of 0.9 times. Valuation based on book value is seen as more useful than earnings-based multiples for evaluating asset-heavy, cyclical businesses such as chip foundries.

SMIC and Hua Hong both look overvalued, “as the market may have overestimated the extent of average selling price recovery,” Morningstar’s Lee said. “Also, the market can be overbullish on the impact of fiscal stimulus.”

 
These journalists need to make up their minds. Is the Ascend 910B yielding 50% at SMIC or is it being produced at TSMC?

The stock growth is not totally outrageous if you consider that SMIC has been working on doubling its wafer capacity. But yes the Shanghai stock market is notable for being rife with speculation and volatility.
 
These journalists need to make up their minds. Is the Ascend 910B yielding 50% at SMIC or is it being produced at TSMC?
Likely both could be true - when SMIC is only yielding 50% and you're battling for allocation vs. another Huawei, corporate imperative, more Kirin 9100s for the Mate 70 launch, battling SMIC's limited leading edge capacity, you look for other approaches. And 6-8 months ago, the yield for the 910B was only 20%. That might have pushed Huawei to look at alternate "sources" for the 910B.

I don't doubt any of the numbers from Reuters, given all the market hints of super-constrained capacity and limited yields.

"The 910C is being made by top Chinese contract chipmaker Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp (SMIC) on its N+2 process, but a lack of advanced lithography equipment has limited the chip's yield to around 20%, said one source who was briefed on the results."

"TikTok's Chinese parent, ByteDance, ordered more than 100,000 Ascend 910B chips this year but had received fewer than 30,000 as of July, a pace too slow meet the company’s needs, Reuters reported in September. Other Chinese technology companies that have ordered from Huawei have complained of similar problems, sources have said."
 
And yet Intel managed to produce Sapphire Rapids processors by the millions with Intel 7. A similar process. DUV only.
That was a server processor with four 400 mm2 compute tiles.

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Do you think Intel's yield was also 20%?

The original Ascend 910 only had one single large (456mm2) compute tile of similar dimension.

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It was made in TSMC's N7+ process. So the transistor density should be similar.

So we are expected to believe SMIC cannot do as well as Intel did while using a similar kind of equipment and process.

You believe the team led by the guy who came up with Samsung's 14nm FinFET process, now working at SMIC, cannot do this.

Right.
 
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SMIC is trying to do these advanced nodes on an accelerated schedule, with sub-scale volumes compared to Intel. And Intel had challenges with 7nm. Their 7nm process was originally scheduled for release in late 2021, but was delayed 12 months compared to their original internal target due to yield issues.

 
The SMIC N+2 (7nm) process had enough yields to make millions of smartphone SoCs a quarter starting at least a year ago. I would think they improved yields on it since then.

Anyway we will know this eventually.
 
Do not discount how desperation can drive surprising resourcefulness and performance.
Like trying to get a variant of your poorly yielding, and capacity-constrained domestic chips fabbed by TSMC though a front company ?
 
Interesting article and a smart direction, especially for AI applications. But I have a lot more admiration for the guys who have already done waferscale now for 3 generations of leading edge process technology, Cerebras. To get there, they have had to knock off 5-6 hard technical problems that have defied well-funded start-ups in the past. TSMC is in on some of their techniques, but not all. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cerebras do technology licensing some day.
 
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