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Korea Economic Daily: Samsung 1st gen 3nm yield reaches "perfect level"

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While typically reserved for leaders I have a book recommendation for these sorts of folks:

Thanks Fred for sharing this! Gave me a nice pick-me-up.
 
Good lord. The fluff pieces that come out of Korea pumping Samsungs tires are endless. Who is even using Samsung 3nm?
Tiny died Bitcoin mining asics that don't care about Perf and that's about it. Be it a failure on Samsung design, foundry, (or more likely both) 3GAE isn't even in exynos socs (and we have no indication when they will use 3GAE).

What really cinches it for me though is not the "perfect yields" (it is a very close second though), but the ROC and ROK "press" fangirling about their own nation's chip giant's "totally accurate" "yields" while trying to tear the other down. From what I can gather this fangirling isn't even new either. All told though everything about this article is *chef's kiss* tres magnifique.
 
There are reports of Samsung lying about yields:


Samsung Electronics' management diagnosis is interpreted as putting weight on the possibility that the yield of the state-of-the-art process reported to the top group by former and current management of the DS division is false. It is said that the management diagnosis goes beyond Samsung Electronics' foundry division and also investigates whether or not the investment money that went into securing the yield of the cutting-edge process was properly used.
(google translate)
 
Tiny died Bitcoin mining asics that don't care about Perf and that's about it. Be it a failure on Samsung design, foundry, (or more likely both) 3GAE isn't even in exynos socs (and we have no indication when they will use 3GAE).

What really cinches it for me though is not the "perfect yields" (it is a very close second though), but the ROC and ROK "press" fangirling about their own nation's chip giant's "totally accurate" "yields" while trying to tear the other down. From what I can gather this fangirling isn't even new either. All told though everything about this article is *chef's kiss* tres magnifique.
We all know the Samsung conglomerate has its tentacles around all aspects of Korean life. I would not be surprised in the least if Korean media is totally compromised by their interests. The very fact this article feels the need to denigrate tsmcs yields says it all really. This reeks of desperation on Samsungs part more then anything…
 
There are reports of Samsung lying about yields:



(google translate)
Kind of old news with the audit that started up in early 22 or late 21 (as if anyone saying their yields were “perfect” wasn’t always suspect). My comments about ridiculous fangirling is no matter how well or poorly N3 and 3GAE are doing; any claim that yields are x or y% can safely be viewed as nothing but hogwash. As I’ve stated before a % is worthless unless you have information about the die being fabbed and what kind of yield we are talking about. Even then yield doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about process health.

As an example it is obvious to see that 4LPE is either having or had issues. But any claim that yields are only 30% is nonsense to me. For one it is hard to believe that a “released node” could have DDs that bad. Two the main issue with 4LPE seems to be that parametric yields (the contacts don’t inspire confidence either).

Any attempts by Taiwanese media to pump up TSMC and degrade SS with claims that are not based on any technical facts are just as pathetic to me.
 
There are reports of Samsung lying about yields:
That article is a year old, and the issues then were well reported. The question now is have they made enough progress, including culture and truth.
 
Any attempts by Taiwanese media to pump up TSMC and degrade SS with claims that are not based on any technical facts are just as pathetic to me.
Press releases are not journalism. Every company - and university - has a cheerleading section, and the internet has sucked the funding out of journalism so pressos fill a vacuum. It can be depressing. Semiwiki is one of the places where we can get real insights.
 
Kind of old news with the audit that started up in early 22 or late 21 (as if anyone saying their yields were “perfect” wasn’t always suspect). My comments about ridiculous fangirling is no matter how well or poorly N3 and 3GAE are doing; any claim that yields are x or y% can safely be viewed as nothing but hogwash. As I’ve stated before a % is worthless unless you have information about the die being fabbed and what kind of yield we are talking about. Even then yield doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about process health.

As an example it is obvious to see that 4LPE is either having or had issues. But any claim that yields are only 30% is nonsense to me. For one it is hard to believe that a “released node” could have DDs that bad. Two the main issue with 4LPE seems to be that parametric yields (the contacts don’t inspire confidence either).

Any attempts by Taiwanese media to pump up TSMC and degrade SS with claims that are not based on any technical facts are just as pathetic to me.
If anything I find Taiwanese media puts out TSMC FUD even more. I’m looking at you trends force, digitimes. According to them the sky is always falling over at TSMC…
 
It seems to have gone full circle: https://www.digitimes.com.tw/tech/dt/n/shwnws.asp?CnlID=1&Cat=40&id=0000654603_JHZ5H5YV1YG6342Q505PJ

As for the mass-produced N3, the yield rate is less than 50% and the number of shipments is very low.
Ah yes the perpetual motion machine of sh*tty journalism. One puts out a poorly sourced article and then the rest all start quoting each other giving the impression of an a actual piece of journalism. I see we have seemed to have reached a self sustaining critical mass 😂
 
Ah yes the perpetual motion machine of sh*tty journalism. One puts out a poorly sourced article and then the rest all start quoting each other giving the impression of an a actual piece of journalism. I see we have seemed to have reached a self sustaining critical mass 😂
This should be the forum for debunking.

The sources are usually "sources." 😂
 
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