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CES 2012 Forum Discussion Thread (iPad2 Giveaway)

Jim,

Little chance that Apple would merge MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, two entirely distinct market segments. I use the MacBook Pro because it offers a 17 inch display, while users of the MacBook Air enjoy the light weight feature (at the expense of tiny displays which I no longer can read without glasses).

If Apple were to merger the Pro and Air lines together we would loose the wonderful 17 inch displays. It isn't broke, so little chance that Apple would fix it by merging two growing product lines.

I predict that the Nokia Intel Microsoft collaboration is too little too late for the smart phone market, and will languish with single digit market segment numbers, then quietly disbanded.

Microsoft was cool in the 80's however since then they continue to enter markets late, follow the leaders (Apple, Google), then try to embrace standards only to extend and pervert them (remember what they did to Java and how a Federal Judge convicted them and forced them to conform and pay Sun a fine). I only use Microsoft software under duress.

Totally agree that 2012 is the year that Android must gain market share in the tablet space. The Asus Transformer looks awesome on paper in technical specs versus the iPad 2, however Apple dominates the marketing demand-creation of that category and there are fewer geeks buying Android tablets versus the rest of the hip people buying the iPad 2.

The winners at CES are those that create the most attractive marketing messages and partner with technology leaders.
 
Great pics of CES and though I have never been there myself - I hope one I will!
I see this year going a lot more into UX (user experience) with televisions, and the software to connect your various hand held devices at home. No real improvement with phones and tablets, just performance upgrades. TV's will see a change, and I'm also hoping they will improve the process' to make LED's more affordable (but prices won't go down) and thus lead to more value coming from the 'new' UX experience. Starting with saying goodbye to your remote control!
 
Daniel's report mentioned "Tablet + Cloud = Success!".
I saw plenty of tablets in the reviews and commentary of CES. But what about clouds? Apple, Google and Amazon are building clouds for thousands (millions?) of users. Maybe I should be building my own cloud for my family (less then ten) users. Where are the products for that?
 
CES for me it's the right show to be in Las Vegas. Showing just funny thing more than useful. But is too much consumer! Barcelona mobile show (at least for my business) is more focused and oriented.... and I even say more technical.
Enjoy in LV... but I'll never been there.
 
OLED stunning contrast is the major reason for its appeal not to mention power efficeinecy. I saw this for the first @CES probably 3 years ago (granted the displays were tiny then) and I was absolutely blown away by the picture quality. I am half joking when I say that the display of a flower was more real than the flower right next to it (or whatever the item displayed was at the time). 3D TV will fade, OLED will continue to improve, drop in price and flexible transparent displays will emerge. From your prior post, about replacing your plasma, wait for OLED.
 
Dan, I was also disappointed with the lack of really new products at CES. Sony did have some interesting items in their Future Technology section including a glasses-free 3D TV. Sony and several other companies showed prototypes of 4K displays, with over 4 times the resolution of HDTV. Given the long time period for HDTV to become mainstream, I suspect it will be beyond 2020 before 4K TV emerges as a meaningful market. I did find the record number of exhibitors and attendees a good sign of increase optimism for the electronics (and semiconductor) markets.
 
I agree with the visual quality of OLED - I didn't get to see the Best of Show LG 55" OLED TV but the Samsung booth was mind-blowing, with at least a hundred OLED screens on show:
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The colour quality was impressive, and Samsung had some great stuff cycling through the TVs.

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The thing that I didn't expect was how thin they are - here's an edge-on shot:

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I would guess 15 mm thick, though there's probably a published spec somewhere. I gather the LG set is ~4 mm thin - amazing! Can't wait to get one!
 
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Some things were a surprise though - who would expect the return of vacuum tubes (valves, for us Brits):

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Hi-fi buffs have long alleged that analog valve amplifiers give better sound, but this is the first time in years that I've seen a new one! Samsung uses the vacuum tube in the pre-amp.

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Another example of technology repeating itself - hardly the "new era of sound"!
 
Is it just my perception that more and more semi guys/girls are going to CES than ever before? Is it because there are less shows to go to or something else that drives this? What do you think of CES as a place to network?
 
There are probably more semi people blogging, tweeting, facebooking and google+ing about what they learned at CES. Where we get our technical updates has shifted dramatically away from the full-time, professional journalists to the geeks like us on SemiWiki.
 
CES 2012 was disappointing.

I feel that CES 2012 was rather disappointing.

The main highlights of this year as far as I'm concerned was Samsung. It was rather SES(Samsung Electronics Show) rather than CES.

Samsung put forward some rather interesting products. Namely, the new Samsung Smart TV and Samsung Galaxy Note. And, there was this Samsung Transparent touch screens. As far as I'm concerned, only the transparent touch screen was the exciting product.

As for Smart TV, the shift towards Smart TVs from traditional TVs started sometime back. It's something that was expected. Nothing new.

Samsung Galaxy Note was interesting in the fact that it tried to create a new league of devices that give a balance between tablets and touch phones. This was rather welcoming because I've always been tired of small displays in mobile phones and large size of tablets.

The transparent touch screen TVs seem to the technology of the future. Digital blinds and smart screen in place of regular glass on windows have always been in *concept* form rather than ready to ship prototypes. Of course, the technology required existed sometime back but no one put together it into a fine device like this.

Last but not the least, the ultrabooks also dominated CES 2012 but it's something that was to be expected as well. I can remember reading some time back that Intel Ivy Bridge processors will be features in ultrabooks with 2560p screens. This is something I've always wanted to see. As of now 720p is the standard for laptops while 1080p is available on higher end laptops and 900/960p was available on select cheap higher end laptops. The shift towards 2560p from rather low 720p is an excellent move. Also omitting optical drives and making a push towards flash storage and faster networking is also something that can very well change the world. However, all these devices features integrated Intel graphics which mean nothing at 2560p. This is a shortcoming in ultrabooks that has not been addressed yet. And, I see that the manufacturers are trying to create a new market rather than address shortcomings in existing market. Plus, the high prices of ultrabooks are rather disappointing.

What I so badly wanted to see on CES was Asus PadFone but I so far didn't see any references to it.



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Going to CES at least once is definitely on my bucket list. To see the latest and greatest in consumer electronics must be fun but I bet a little overwhelming. I'm curious to know the attendance numbers for this year.
 
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