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AI data centers are forcing dirty ‘peaker’ power plants back into service

To quote myself, and my answer to your questions:



I wish I was trying to be humorous.
Exactly. Decide what you are going to do and live with the consequences. If you want datacenters, build them. If you don't, then other countries can build them and they can control datacenters.

The US decided not to build nuclear plants and not to dam rivers over the last 30 years. Thats fine.... now that leads to other decisions.
 
None other than the socialist Robert Reich (former US Sec of Labor) and constant critic of capitalism (at when he doesn't personally benefit) is one of the most famous NIMBY people going on record for opposing more dense or more affordable housing in Berkeley, because it would negatively impact the character of the community.
We have NIMBY “protectors” of all political persuasions who keep us from building - Reich’s protecting us from student noise pollution, ranchers and farmers protecting us from transmission lines and high speed rail, Native Americans and allies protecting us from pipelines, and the current administration protecting us (plus whales and birds) from windmills (though seemingly offshore oil drilling is no threat whatsoever).
 
Glass half full - at least AI seems to be marginally more useful than cryptomining that is *still* growing in energy use (and environmental impact).


Emptying the glass..

I personally think humans won't get serious about pollution until it's impacts are truly catastrophic. (Increases in cancer rates and chronic disease for humans and dying animal/plant species and food chain impacts aren't enough for people to generally notice).

AI power demands may accelerate that timetable a little bit..
 
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