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Something stinks about this.
Something stinks about this.
1. I think this is partially the nature of semiconductor-manufacturing (Be it TSMC, Samsung, or Intel). I think it is just tougher than being an engineer at a 50 year old soybean oil plant that needs minimal oversight to work at it's peak.
2. TSMC already has a fab in the US, so they should know all about US labor/environmental regulations.
3. It is also hard for me to imagine that TSMC staff would have such a poor opinion of American engineers since Americans make up a large percentage of their upper echelons/CR staff/vendor engineers.
4. It is also unimaginable that anyone would be smoking in the office areas when this is literally not allowed anywhere in the US.
5. Taiwan is struggling with many of their firms outsourcing to the PRC because Taiwanese workers "work less hard" and for more money than their mainlander or Korean counterparts, so it seems like weird claim to make in the first place.
If I'm wrong on this though, and this is the mindset that TSMC management has, then their Arizona fab is likely doomed to be one of the companies worst fabs due to such a poor culture. Here's hoping that this article is mostly hogwash, and that new fabs in the USA and to a lesser extent the EU/Israel prove to any doubters that American/European/Israeli engineers can still be best in class when it comes to making semiconductors.
The source indeed might not be very credible. But one should not expect a TSMC employee say this sort of things under real name (they are not that stupid). So if the report does reflect a sentiment of the actual TSMC employee, the sourcing can only be in the form of an anonymous internet poster.I saw this particular article the other day but laughed at it. The author is lacking some basic ability to write a creditable report.
There are some serious problems he intentionally made into that article:
Article title: TSMC’s U.S. Engineers Are “Babies” Say Taiwanese After The Former Leave For America
Who are the "Taiwanese" mentioned in the article's title?
What I can tell the "baby" calling was from two or three posters on the Taiwan's PPT website, something similar to the Reddit.com with tons of gossips. The author Ramish Zafar went ahead to label it as the common opinion of the Taiwanese or hinted the opinions are coming from TSMC employees.
In reality we can't tell for sure those PPT posters are real TSMC employees, real Taiwanese, a person with multiple accounts talking to himself/herself, a sabotage team sent in by North Korea's Kim, or a bunch of special agents dispatched by Darth Vader.
There are several Internet threads spreading in US with the belief that the Covid-19 vaccine came with small mind control chips sponsored by Bill Gates.
By the same token, Mr. Ramesh Zafar of wfcctech.com should write an article with a title: "Bill Gates is Controlling People's Mind Through Covid-19 vaccine Say American".
TSMC founder Morris Chang's photo is posted just below the article's title with a description named him as "Zhang Zhongmou". Nobody in Taiwan or US calls Mr. Chang that way. "Zhang Zhongmou" is a mainland China's spelling method.
I think Mr. Ramesh Zafar intentionally tried to tie this baby calling thing to TSMC or Dr. Chang based on an unverifiable Internet chat.
Why Mr. Ramesh Zafar wrote such poor quality article based on a shaky Internet chat? It's probably wasting our time to figure it out.
Morris Chang already said TSMC build fabs in the US isn't a good idea，so it won't be a surprise if it end up badly
I love how C.C and Wendell deal with the obligatory avalanche of stupid questions by wallstreet analysts every quarter. It’s always good for a laugh.Morris doesn't speak for TSMC. Having worked with TSMC for the last 30 years I can tell you that the company went through a big change when Morris left. CC Wei is a much more effective leader. I also know the person who is leading the AZ fab efforts and I can tell you that it will be successful without a doubt. Times change so picking outdated quotes to support your personal agenda is not professional.
Foxconn never executed for whatever reason, and came out looking foolish. Apparently they did build some server motherboards there, which is, as we all know, mostly an automated process. Still, US environmental laws make board stuffing and assembly comparatively expensive. I remember the announcements, and I never understood what Foxconn was hoping to accomplish, though later I wondered if this was to be the assembly facility for the long-rumored Apple car. No matter how you look at it, this wasn't a failure of manufacturing, this was just a failed strategy.Taiwanese companies didn't have much success of manufacturing in the US. Remember Foxconn's Wisconsin plant？Once referred as "the eighth wonder of the world" by Trump
I love how C.C and Wendell deal with the obligatory avalanche of stupid questions by wallstreet analysts every quarter. It’s always good for a laugh.
Good to know (not that I'm likely to ever meet the man). Always good to see a lively or funny engineer.I attended an investor call live in Taipei one time. It was a very entertaining event. It was like being at an awards ceremony here in the US. Paparazzi were everywhere, the place was packed, and CC is much funnier in person. You definitely lose a lot of information, facial expressions, body language, etc... over the phone. CC is definitely one of the best CEOs in semiconductor. Jensen Huang is another. I would never bet against them.
Morris doesn't speak for TSMC. Having worked with TSMC for the last 30 years I can tell you that the company went through a big change when Morris left. CC Wei is a much more effective leader. I also know the person who is leading the AZ fab efforts and I can tell you that it will be successful without a doubt. Times change so picking outdated quotes to support your personal agenda is not professional.
I would extend these statements about the techs at my firm. They know the equipment well, and often have good insight into why tools are having issues. They are hard working and efficient, and at my firm there is a strict hierarchy (although it feels like that is more detrimental than helpful). Bigger issues is a toxic and inefficient engineering culture that seems to be getting better fast.Things I learned working at F12P4 in Hsinchu 10 years ago:
-Average fab techs are amazingly capable, and this can be humbling, and reveals a major gap with typical US techs; work that would take 10 weeks in the US takes 10 days. This is an economically differentiating thing, I suspect.
-Most techs are not TSMC, but the culture extends into the contractors
-It is miltaristic/hierarchical with very direct orders given and followed, about all sorts of things, not necessarily strictly work related
-There is a language and culture gap, but it is not that big. Whether island or mainland, most people who get to know them, love the Chinese. Watch "American Factory", that documentary captures it well.