Fixed that for you. I know what China's position is, and it still makes no sense to me at all. The situation just looks silly.
China starts large military drills around Taiwan
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When you say Texas , I assume you mean Puerta Rico.
delong.height
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here is the thing, if China knows it got a economic nuclear bomb, he's gonna use it if things are against him so badly. As a Chinese, I know that the country is desired for reunite, and its people want it. It's also the best achievement for the party, and a important date to be remembered for the future generations. It has happened repeated over the years over last 5000 years or so. It never changed, Unlike the west, there is only one China, and whoever is the more powerful one always want to acquire the other. It's Chinese people's DNA. And trust me, chinese do not give a shit of being cut off from the worldwide financial order because things are already on the way.
delong.height
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that's not true. Taiwan is extremely resource limited.
fansink
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I guess you missed the "first island chain" memo, it's all the CCP cares about.
The BS they feed the feeble minded, is just a cover story.
The CCP can't admit that they're going to war with their fellow Taiwanese to fulfill their dreams of world domination.
So when the CCP going for the lands taken by the Russians?
Maybe I am talking to the wrong people as I dont know any Chinese folk whos over riding concern is Taiwan , they are all more about getting on with their life in the difficult economic times.
If you are part of the global network then you are concerned about being cutoff from the world.
The future of the world is in the youth who have had 2 decades of global interaction via the internet. Hopefully when they get to positions of influence they can rid the world of the narrow minded thinking of yesteryear.
Western folly is trying to rationalize. Totalitarians don't have a necessity to be rational in front of anyone. Best proof: the whole of history, and the fact that they consistently trigger their own downfalls by their own obviously stupid actions.
Normal juntas are at least afraid of their dictators triggering the downfall of their entire regime, and their dictators are afraid of their own generals who can overthrow them for doing stupid things. Xi does not need to fear anyone like that. Everyone surrounding him is a brainwashed man like he is.
If there were anybody who could stop Xi's madness, Xi would've already been out of power 10+ years ago. He is still in power, and it means there are none.
I would say, the only communist party leaders in the world history who were overthrown were ones who tried to reduce ideological zealotry, with the sole exception of Romania.
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China doesn’t dream of world domination, just regional domination.
People view things through the lens of liberal democracy and assume that's how the rest of the world works. The truth is our own liberal democracy may disappear in our lifetime. And if anything that would be more in keeping with historical norms, where for many thousands of years we were ruled by vain emperors with their own ego driven goals and the last 150 years or so may be seen as a short lived exception.
People view things through the lens of liberal democracy and assume that's how the rest of the world works. The truth is our own liberal democracy may disappear in our lifetime. And if anything that would be more in keeping with historical norms, where for many thousands of years we were ruled by vain emperors with their own ego driven goals and the last 150 years or so may be seen as a short lived exception.
Who knows what is really in the head of Pooh Bear but when a man has absolute power and has eliminated all enemies and alternative thought you really think rational analysis of pro / con enters his decisions thinking.
Xi explicitly has said what is policy is, you think just blustering to win votes or stoke fear. He really has no need to do either as supreme dictator!
Really not a matter of when it rationally makes sense to invade or blockade or why, the only question is what he has thought thru and when he is going to do it, not if but only when, LOL
Xi explicitly has said what is policy is, you think just blustering to win votes or stoke fear. He really has no need to do either as supreme dictator!
Really not a matter of when it rationally makes sense to invade or blockade or why, the only question is what he has thought thru and when he is going to do it, not if but only when, LOL
In 1990, PRC was in ranks with Zimbabwe, it did not dream attacking anybody. Instead, it was begging Taipei, and Hongkong for aid, because it was the need of the day.
In 2020, PRC no longer begged Hongkong for credit lines. It just walked in, and put their agents into HK police under gunpoint because it no longer needed HK for anything.
The needs have changed, and thus wants too.
When Russia was broke, it was only able to try to invade its breakaway region. It could not have dreamed of anything else.
When Russia was no longer dying from hunger, it invaded a completely broke country of Tajikistan. It could not have dreamed of anything else.
When Russia recovered from crisis, it attacked Chechnya again. But so far, it was again, the limit of its ambition...
At each stage, different thoughts, and desires for consideration of each attacks went through heads of Russian generals, but in the end the result is still a military attack.
This logic is what basically started the WW2. If America will keep backing off, and beg Beijing for negotiations again, and again, Beijing will no longer dream of Taipei, or Hawaii, but Los Angeles. If USA will concede the Pacific, Beijing will dream of world domination. Same in Europe, the more Washington tells European allies that it will not back their invocation of NATO article 5 in response to Russian missiles hitting their territory, the more possibilities it opens for Moscow.
In 2020, PRC no longer begged Hongkong for credit lines. It just walked in, and put their agents into HK police under gunpoint because it no longer needed HK for anything.
The needs have changed, and thus wants too.
When Russia was broke, it was only able to try to invade its breakaway region. It could not have dreamed of anything else.
When Russia was no longer dying from hunger, it invaded a completely broke country of Tajikistan. It could not have dreamed of anything else.
When Russia recovered from crisis, it attacked Chechnya again. But so far, it was again, the limit of its ambition...
At each stage, different thoughts, and desires for consideration of each attacks went through heads of Russian generals, but in the end the result is still a military attack.
This logic is what basically started the WW2. If America will keep backing off, and beg Beijing for negotiations again, and again, Beijing will no longer dream of Taipei, or Hawaii, but Los Angeles. If USA will concede the Pacific, Beijing will dream of world domination. Same in Europe, the more Washington tells European allies that it will not back their invocation of NATO article 5 in response to Russian missiles hitting their territory, the more possibilities it opens for Moscow.
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Agreed , the last 150yrs is not the norm.
Its why many still dont understand it.
Might is right is still the thinking of many.
Collaboration or compromise = weak.
What people can do, affects what people do. What people do then makes history.
For the last 150 years, the strongest, and most resourced countries on the planet were making it so that baddies cannot attack their allies. The 150 years of relative peace, and prosperity is the result of that.
And when the same countries stopped doing so, and instead greatly empowered same baddies by giving them technology, building their factories, educating their engineers, selling them weapons, and undoing every trade restriction they previously placed on them, the effect is the opposite: no peace, and no prosperity.
Russia invaded Europe because Europe made Russia capable of doing so by rebuilding its military factories, training its troops, and arming its armies.
If America makes China capable of invading America, China will do so too.
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+ Japan has a not Inconsequential navy.
The Japanese Navy was designed for anti-submarine warfare against Soviet submarines to guard the Japanese archipelago. It has next to no capabilities for long distance engagements.
The map you guys posted here displaying the first island chain seems to assume the Kuril islands are under control of the US or its allies. Hint: they are not.
By making these military drills a permanent fixture, the Chinese are trying to make their opponents relax when they see major troop concentrations around Taiwan. When the time comes they will invade, and people will assume it is just another drill until it is too late.
For the PRC, the ROC is unfinished business of the Chinese Civil War. They will annex it sooner or later. They would rather annex it peacefully like what happened with Hong Kong, but they will do it by force if necessary.
The map you guys posted here displaying the first island chain seems to assume the Kuril islands are under control of the US or its allies. Hint: they are not.
By making these military drills a permanent fixture, the Chinese are trying to make their opponents relax when they see major troop concentrations around Taiwan. When the time comes they will invade, and people will assume it is just another drill until it is too late.
For the PRC, the ROC is unfinished business of the Chinese Civil War. They will annex it sooner or later. They would rather annex it peacefully like what happened with Hong Kong, but they will do it by force if necessary.
DepthFirst
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Nonsense. Japan’s Izumo Class operate F35’s, their Kongo, Atago, and Maya class destroyers are broadly similar to US Burkes. They have a serious blue water navy that can operate far from their own waters and project power. Alone they are a force to be reckoned with for the PLAN.
Artificer60
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I think the real concern for TSMC is buried in that last article. The article states that a healthy energy grid has around 25% buffer capacity and at times Taiwan's grid has dropped as low as 5%. Combining that with the government's pledge to shut down their last nuclear reactor that provides 6% of their power and they are heading for a serious energy shortfall. And that is with no disruption to their energy supplies. TSMC needs to continue to expand their operations to other countries just to stabilize their production capability given the state of their power grid at home."According to its Ministry of Economic Affairs, Taiwan's buffer stock of natural gas covers 10 to 11 days, while coal is about 39 days and oil is about 146 days."
Taiwan vulnerable to LNG supply risks in the event of a maritime blockade
Taiwan relies on LNG for around 40% of power generation Natural gas inventory only covers 10 to 11 days of demand LNG suppliers prep contingency plans Taiwan is highly vulnerable to LNG supply disruptwww.spglobal.com
"More than half, about 83%, of the electricity is generated from fossil sources, with natural gas and coal each contributing approximately 40%."
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Republic of China (Taiwan) Electricity Generation Mix 2024 | Low-Carbon Power Data
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"In fact, TSMC alone uses around 9 percent of Taiwan's electricity."
Taiwan Makes the Majority of the World’s Computer Chips. Now It’s Running Out of Electricity
Highly dependent on imported fossil fuels, soon to shutter its last nuclear plant, and slow to build out renewables, the world’s largest producer of advanced computer chips is heading toward an energy crunch.www.wired.com
Chinese military doctrine relays heavily on surprise. How do you surprise your enemy when they can easily see your ships coming from across the straight? You routinely stage war games next to them... that way the surprise comes when you don't leave. At some point they will "war game" a Taiwan quarantine, and then then simply not end the war game.
A manifesto with air and sea blockade requires little surprise but the means and they have the means now