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Apple, 2.7 Trillion Market Cap Tops World Markets

Arthur Hanson

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UK 595 Companies 2.6T
France 235 companies 1.8T
India 1242 companies 1.4T
Germany 255 companies 1.3T

The numbers speak for themselves, Silicon Valley is unique in human economic history as its impact on mankind and the world. AI/ML will be the greatest game changer in human history. If you total up the value of Silicon Valley companies it makes Silicon Valley the driver and economic center of the world. These figures are from CNBC this morning who pulled the figures from Dimensional Funds, 2023 Matrix Book
 
UK 595 Companies 2.6T
France 235 companies 1.8T
India 1242 companies 1.4T
Germany 255 companies 1.3T

The numbers speak for themselves, Silicon Valley is unique in human economic history as its impact on mankind and the world. AI/ML will be the greatest game changer in human history. If you total up the value of Silicon Valley companies it makes Silicon Valley the driver and economic center of the world. These figures are from CNBC this morning who pulled the figures from Dimensional Funds, 2023 Matrix Book
You must be from California to have that point of view.

I'll give you an east coast point of view - there's nothing wrong with California that a rise in the sea level won't fix.

Most of what has been invented was done generations ago, on real computers, not PCs or video cards. AI has been around forever, why is it suddenly such a big thing? I still remember them starting with rudimentary programs on 4K TRS-80s (Eliza). I'm just not sold that something huge is suddenly happening, because computers are still not smart; they're high speed idiots.

And don't forget, IBM, which is not in California, has more patents than any company based there, every year. Their mainframes are far more reliable and complex than "servers" made by lesser companies. And let's not forget TSMC is the best fab in the world, it's not Intel anymore.

And let's also not forget how many companies are leaving California.

And several decades before, it there was a lot of activity around Boston.

So, no, Silicon Valley isn't unique, and it's far from proven that AI/ML will be the greatest game changer in the world. It's way over the top. Let's see what happens.
 
You must be from California to have that point of view.

I'll give you an east coast point of view - there's nothing wrong with California that a rise in the sea level won't fix.

Most of what has been invented was done generations ago, on real computers, not PCs or video cards. AI has been around forever, why is it suddenly such a big thing? I still remember them starting with rudimentary programs on 4K TRS-80s (Eliza). I'm just not sold that something huge is suddenly happening, because computers are still not smart; they're high speed idiots.

And don't forget, IBM, which is not in California, has more patents than any company based there, every year. Their mainframes are far more reliable and complex than "servers" made by lesser companies. And let's not forget TSMC is the best fab in the world, it's not Intel anymore.

And let's also not forget how many companies are leaving California.

And several decades before, it there was a lot of activity around Boston.

So, no, Silicon Valley isn't unique, and it's far from proven that AI/ML will be the greatest game changer in the world. It's way over the top. Let's see what happens.
I don't live in California, I left due to crime, taxes and corruption, which I saw firsthand working on public works projects and the private sector
 
I don't live in California, I left due to crime, taxes and corruption, which I saw firsthand working on public works projects and the private sector
That's what I find so disturbing about CA. It could be almost a paradise, and it's been turned into something that's painful to watch.

I mean, 40 years ago, it was viewed so differently than it is today. I don't understand the thinking there, and when it's questioned, they double down on it. It's very sad, and difficult to understand.
 
Silicon Valley isn't what it used to be that's for sure. EDA is the only semiconductor related industry that I can think of that still resides here: Synopsys, Cadence, Siemens EDA (Mentor), and ANSYS (Apache). That represents a < 90% market share. Of course now they are all over the world but this is where they were born and raised and HQ still resides here.
 
You must be from California to have that point of view.

I'll give you an east coast point of view - there's nothing wrong with California that a rise in the sea level won't fix.

Most of what has been invented was done generations ago, on real computers, not PCs or video cards. AI has been around forever, why is it suddenly such a big thing? I still remember them starting with rudimentary programs on 4K TRS-80s (Eliza). I'm just not sold that something huge is suddenly happening, because computers are still not smart; they're high speed idiots.

And don't forget, IBM, which is not in California, has more patents than any company based there, every year. Their mainframes are far more reliable and complex than "servers" made by lesser companies. And let's not forget TSMC is the best fab in the world, it's not Intel anymore.

And let's also not forget how many companies are leaving California.

And several decades before, it there was a lot of activity around Boston.

So, no, Silicon Valley isn't unique, and it's far from proven that AI/ML will be the greatest game changer in the world. It's way over the top. Let's see what happens.

"You must be from California to have that point of view."

Can we discuss the issue itself instead of labeling each other first?
 
"You must be from California to have that point of view."

Can we discuss the issue itself instead of labeling each other first?

In case you didn't read what followed, I did.

And the only conceivable reason, at least to me, that someone could have a view that exaggerated is their perspective is one that favors it. So, I addressed both.
 
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