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2023 Semiconductor Revenue Breakdown

Daniel Nenni

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It is interesting to compare revenue versus Market CAP. They don't seem to be related :ROFLMAO: :

Nvidia $3017.47B
Broadcom $771.54B
AMD $265.58B
Qualcomm $223.38B
Intel $132.26B


Breaking down $545B Semiconductor Revenue 2023.jpg
 
What revenue do Apple get from semicon?

Who do they sell their chips to, or who they do design work for maybe?
 
What revenue do Apple get from semicon?

Who do they sell their chips to, or who they do design work for maybe?
Themselves - they're just a big enough captive user of their own chips to show up in the top 20. I think Apple is usually measured by their chip BOM cost, not a fully-imputed retail cost, so their percentage would be higher if it reflected the retail markup. Two others, Samsung and now NVIDIA, also include the revenue for their chips included in their end-products.
 
What revenue do Apple get from semicon?

Who do they sell their chips to, or who they do design work for maybe?

Themselves - they're just a big enough captive user of their own chips to show up in the top 20. I think Apple is usually measured by their chip BOM cost, not a fully-imputed retail cost, so their percentage would be higher if it reflected the retail markup. Two others, Samsung and now NVIDIA, also include the revenue for their chips included in their end-products.

We can use Apple Silicon manufactured at TSMC as a reference point. The rumor is that 25% of TSMC 2023 $69.67 billion revenue came from Apple. That's about $17.42 billion for 2023. Adding other non-TSMC made semiconductor products, assembly and testing cost, Apple can be viewed as a $20+ billion semiconductor company.
 
We can use Apple Silicon manufactured at TSMC as a reference point. The rumor is that 25% of TSMC 2023 $69.67 billion revenue came from Apple. That's about $17.42 billion for 2023. Adding other non-TSMC made semiconductor products, assembly and testing cost, Apple can be viewed as a $20+ billion semiconductor company.
Your 17.42 is close to the 18.5 from this chart (545*3.4%). Thanks for the extra data point !
 
Themselves - they're just a big enough captive user of their own chips to show up in the top 20. I think Apple is usually measured by their chip BOM cost, not a fully-imputed retail cost, so their percentage would be higher if it reflected the retail markup. Two others, Samsung and now NVIDIA, also include the revenue for their chips included in their end-products.

Thanks for explanation , I guess many companies are "their own" customers so probably a lot of this.

Just that it seemed a bit odd as nobody else is using their products, so would they be the biggest user of their own stuff and not selling externally?
 
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