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TSMC trumps IBM’s “2nm” chip tech hyperbole with “1nm” claim

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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), the National University of Taiwan (NTU) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) have jointly announced that a significant breakthrough was made in the development of 1-nanometer (nm) chips.

 
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), the National University of Taiwan (NTU) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) have jointly announced that a significant breakthrough was made in the development of 1-nanometer (nm) chips.

Obviously both processes are far from ready but I would not compare a research paper with a silicon wafer (in terms of readiness).
 
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), the National University of Taiwan (NTU) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) have jointly announced that a significant breakthrough was made in the development of 1-nanometer (nm) chips.

Seriously - you talk about trumping when somebody announces a research paper Vs a silicon wafer? Poor choice of words…
 
Seriously - you talk about trumping when somebody announces a research paper Vs a silicon wafer? Poor choice of words…

Agreed. The word "trump" has changed meaning.

A paper is to a test chip as a test chip is to production. My bet is that TSMC gets to production with 2nm before IBM, absolutely.
 
There is no denial TSMC is a major force in the semi industry especially in the area of chip fabrications. But I am not sure why we are being so pessimistic and give so little credit to the US technological prowess. America still leads and is the envy of the world in scientific research. TSMC, Samsung and pretty much every single tech conglomerate in China got to their dominate position because of their government supports, financially or otherwise (yes, market interference). So let us cheer on the Intel's, the IBM's, and even the MIT's in the TSMC paper, who are powered and driven by free world capitalism and market economy.
 
every single tech conglomerate in China got to their dominate position because of their government supports, financially or otherwise (yes, market interference).
China private companies doesn't really have China govrt support. what they have is China allowed them to do business. look at the global 500, all the top companies from China are State owned. there is a phrase in Chinese (国进民退), there are some State owned companies like Huawei disguised as private company.
 
There is no denial TSMC is a major force in the semi industry especially in the area of chip fabrications. But I am not sure why we are being so pessimistic and give so little credit to the US technological prowess. America still leads and is the envy of the world in scientific research. TSMC, Samsung and pretty much every single tech conglomerate in China got to their dominate position because of their government supports, financially or otherwise (yes, market interference). So let us cheer on the Intel's, the IBM's, and even the MIT's in the TSMC paper, who are powered and driven by free world capitalism and market economy.
I wouldn't say any of us are pessimistic and would give little credit to the technological prowess of the United States.

Most of your points are valid. Neither the governments of Taiwan or South Korea would even exist today without the protection and safety the US provides them. TSMC and Samsung both enjoy strong support from their respective governments. Management at TSMC indicated in a previous earnings call that they could not avoid using/replace US technology in their manufacturing process.

America is the envy of the world in scientific research...however, we need to maintain our edge and not sit on our laurels! China is closing the gap fast...we need to beat them back not just for us but for the world. We should never allow China and Russia to supersede our technological capabilities.

Bad management is what happened at Intel and IBM. Intel sat on its laurels and lost its process manufacturing edge. IBM...the fact that Ginni Rometty was even allowed to remain as CEO/executive chairman for 8 years is an utter disgrace. If you love 22 consecutive quarters of revenue decline and CEOs accepting pay bonuses during layoffs and offshoring, Ginni is your gal! 🙄 Luckily, we still have plenty of great companies to push us further.
 
Obviously both processes are far from ready but I would not compare a research paper with a silicon wafer (in terms of readiness).

According to this interview, IBM believes their 2nm technology will be in real world production in three to four years.


I can't say this rollout schedule is impossible. But it's a very aggressive timeline. Because IBM is Intel's semiconductor technology partner, does that mean in three to four years Intel will be able to skip all the troubles posed by Intel's 7nm and 5nm and to become the 2nm king?
 
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There is no denial TSMC is a major force in the semi industry especially in the area of chip fabrications. But I am not sure why we are being so pessimistic and give so little credit to the US technological prowess. America still leads and is the envy of the world in scientific research. TSMC, Samsung and pretty much every single tech conglomerate in China got to their dominate position because of their government supports, financially or otherwise (yes, market interference). So let us cheer on the Intel's, the IBM's, and even the MIT's in the TSMC paper, who are powered and driven by free world capitalism and market economy.
There's a very interesting pattern to your posts.

Is this a forum for discussing technology or waving little national flags?
 
According to this interview, IBM believes their 2nm technology will be in real world production in three to four years.


I can't say this rollout schedule is impossible. But it's a very aggressive timeline. Because IBM is Intel's semiconductor technology partner, does that mean in three to four years Intel will be able to skip all the troubles pose by Intel's 7nm and 5nm and to become the 2nm king?
IBM was Samsung's partner for 3nm. could ask them. :p

and there's still the issue of Intel not having EUV.
 
China private companies doesn't really have China govrt support. what they have is China allowed them to do business. look at the global 500, all the top companies from China are State owned. there is a phrase in Chinese (国进民退), there are some State owned companies like Huawei disguised as private company.
Wow, you know everything!
 
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