Cutting off China, Could it Backfire?

[Arthur Hanson]

China has vast amounts of money and talent, if the US and our allies cut them off from many technologies, how many of these can China develop or circumvent in numerous ways. Drugs and weapons are restricted, but anyone here can get a wide variety of both, including weapons that could devastate entire cities (chemical, biological and extreme explosives), China should be able to do the same, but over a wider variety of areas. At one point, the Russians were even offering to sell a submarine with nukes. It was a cocaine dealer who had Russian connections and he proved it with a trip to Russia and was given immunity. With enough money and other inducements, one can procure almost anything. Any thoughts or comments appreciated.

 

[Daniel Nenni]

Yes, absolutely, it is a war in the making and not in Taiwan's best interest, not even close.

 

[bearmoo]

Well, in one fell swoop, the self-proclaimed "adults" in DC has managed to push China, Russia and Iran into a vengence-seeking bloc. I think China is not your most immediate concern.

 

[Xebec]

Asianometry has a good video about the Soviet Union trying to keep up with the West on semiconductor technology. There are probably some lessons learned there — short version; they couldn’t keep up for various reasons. But a lot of those reasons were ones that China has already prepared for. In addition, China has a much wider net of trading partners and the IP theft is much easier these days..

So I think these changes will slow down China a bit but in the grand scheme may not matter too much, and far outweighed by the Cold War implications and trade breakdowns that’ll hurt us little people. China ironically is also our key to improving the environment (battery production), so it’ll frustrate us in a lot of ways if we continue down this path.

There’s probably a balanced approach out there somewhere .

 

[Barnsley]

Asianometry has a good video about the Soviet Union trying to keep up with the West on semiconductor technology. There are probably some lessons learned there — short version; they couldn’t keep up for various reasons. But a lot of those reasons were ones that China has already prepared for. In addition, China has a much wider net of trading partners and the IP theft is much easier these days..

So I think these changes will slow down China a bit but in the grand scheme may not matter too much, and far outweighed by the Cold War implications and trade breakdowns that’ll hurt us little people. China ironically is also our key to improving the environment (battery production), so it’ll frustrate us in a lot of ways if we continue down this path.

There’s probably a balanced approach out there somewhere .

Agreed , but the balance is what?

Status Quo

Those at the top table stay there and the rest can feed on scraps.

 

[Barnsley]

Yes, absolutely, it is a war in the making and not in Taiwan's best interest, not even close.

Taiwans best interest is to be allowed to operate as its own entity is it not?

Seems simple , however the concerns of the folk of Taiwan seem not be of a concern to anyone.

Similar to when the Philippines folk finally broke the Spanish , only to then he sold to the US by the Spanish without even being part of the discussion.

Took them another 50yrs to get proper independence and to be masters of their own affairs

 

[tonyget]

The sucess of US competitiveness has nothing to do with government policies, it's all attribute to organic growth of private sectors.

The US gov historically made more dumb policies than smart ones，it's better to just leave the industry alone. US companies will eventually figure out how to maintain the lead themself，withou gov intervention.

 

[hist78]

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