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AMD buying Intel? It’s on the table

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  • - Intel reported a staggering $16.6 billion loss in the third quarter of the year, with a year-over-year net profit margin drop of 6,064.76%, prompting concerns about the company's future.

  • - Intel has been promised close to $30 billion in government subsidies under the CHIPS Act, but has not yet received any funds, leading to questions about the company's financial strategy and viability.
We think of AMD and Intel as exactly what they are — fierce rivals. However, the U.S. government is encouraging Intel to consider a merger with a rival, such as AMD, to counteract the intense financial trouble the company has been in over the past several months, according to a report from Semafor.

Intel just released its earnings for the third quarter of the year, where the company revealed that it had lost $16.6 billion. Year-over-year, Intel’s net profit margin has dropped by 6,064.76%. That’s not a typo. Intel is bleeding money, and according to the report, the U.S. government sees the chipmaker as too important to go under. At the moment, Semafor reports that talks between the government and Intel are “purely precautionary,” but multiple options to recover the brand are on the table.

One such option is a merger, with potential companies being AMD or Marvell. The merger would only impact Intel’s chip design business, while its foundry business would remain unscathed. This, in the eyes of the U.S. government, makes sense. Although enthusiasts debate about whether AMD or Intel make the best processors, Intel has been at the heart of government subsidies through the CHIPS Act due to its manufacturing business.

Under the CHIPS Act, Intel has been promised close to $30 billion in government subsidies split across grants and low-interest loans. Despite passing in 2022, however, the CHIPS Act has yet to pay out any money to Intel, or any other recipients. Intel hasn’t shared critical details about its financial situation with the government to prove it has a viable plan to take advantage of the additional funds, according to reporting from Bloomberg.

At the moment, the future of Intel doesn’t hang on recent CPUs like the Core Ultra 9 285K, but rather what it can deliver in its manufacturing facilities. Earlier this year, Intel canceled its 20A node in order to focus engineering resources on 18A. The company has already scored contracts for 18A with Microsoft and the U.S. Department of Defense, and with Intel losing cash quarter-over-quarter, it wants to fulfill those contracts as fast as possible.

This focus still concerns Intel’s manufacturing business. Intel has considered splitting its design and manufacturing businesses, which might help the company in the long run. If a company like AMD were to purchase the design wing, the funds awarded to Intel would go strictly toward manufacturing, which is reportedly the U.S. government’s main concern given rivals like TSMC in Taiwan and a growing semiconductor industry in mainland China.

 
AMD buying Intel? It’s on the table

Nope. I can think of reasons why not but not one reason why they should.

One such option is a merger, with potential companies being AMD or Marvell. The merger would only impact Intel’s chip design business, while its foundry business would remain unscathed.

Foundry business unscathed? :ROFLMAO:

Never going to happen. If you seperate Intel design and Intel manufacturing they will both die. If they do split it he biggest benefactor would be AMD. Yet another reason why AMD would not.

The only acquisition option I see is Broadcom and keeping it separate. Hock Tan would rule Intel with an iron clad spreadsheet! The first thing he would do is fire the Intel BoD, absolutely.

The question I have is: Can Broadcom buy Intel? Hock is great at raising money but that is a LOT of money!
 
AMD buying Intel? It’s on the table

Nope. I can think of reasons why not but not one reason why they should.

One such option is a merger, with potential companies being AMD or Marvell. The merger would only impact Intel’s chip design business, while its foundry business would remain unscathed.

Foundry business unscathed? :ROFLMAO:

Never going to happen. If you seperate Intel design and Intel manufacturing they will both die. If they do split it he biggest benefactor would be AMD. Yet another reason why AMD would not.

The only acquisition option I see is Broadcom and keeping it separate. Hock Tan would rule Intel with an iron clad spreadsheet! The first thing he would do is fire the Intel BoD, absolutely.

The question I have is: Can Broadcom buy Intel? Hock is great at raising money but that is a LOT of money!
If the U.S. Government essentially stopped Broadcom from buying Qualcomm, do you think they would let them buy Intel?
 
If the U.S. Government essentially stopped Broadcom from buying Qualcomm, do you think they would let them buy Intel?

It was Trump and Broadcom was Singapore based. Trump is no longer president and Broadcom is no longer Singapore based.

Broadcom Inc. is a global technology leader that designs, develops and supplies a broad range of semiconductor, enterprise software and security solutions. Broadcom’s category-leading product portfolio serves critical markets including cloud, data center, networking, broadband, wireless, storage, industrial and enterprise software. Our solutions include service provider and enterprise networking and storage, mobile device and broadband connectivity, mainframe, cybersecurity and private and hybrid cloud infrastructure. Broadcom is a Delaware corporation headquartered in Palo Alto, CA.
 
All the bad financial reasons aside -- if AMD really did want to buy Intel / merge - is x86 sufficiently... 'ousted' from computing that it would no longer be considered a straight up monopoly by the courts?

(I think the irony is if AMD and Intel merged it would weaken x86 as a whole, leaving it even more open to further ARM/RISC-V/etc. market loss)
 
All the bad financial reasons aside -- if AMD really did want to buy Intel / merge - is x86 sufficiently... 'ousted' from computing that it would no longer be considered a straight up monopoly by the courts?

(I think the irony is if AMD and Intel merged it would weaken x86 as a whole, leaving it even more open to further ARM/RISC-V/etc. market loss)
On this front i agree there have been competition in x86 and this will only accelerates it's growth
 
If it's the majority's agreement among Intel's stakeholders/observers that Pat Gelsinger is the only person who can save Intel, will an AMD-Intel merger force Dr. Lisa Su to leave? How is it possible that AMD existing shareholders will approve such proposal?
 
If it's the majority's agreement among Intel's stakeholders/observers that Pat Gelsinger is the only person who can save Intel, will an AMD-Intel merger force Dr. Lisa Su to leave? How is it possible that AMD existing shareholders will approve such proposal?
I don't see how they would ever approve that. Putting everything aside - Lisa Su executed a full turn around. At this point, Pats best case scenario is a turn around a couple of years down the road.

Pat, imo, would be appropriate for a BoD position if that ever became reality. (Sorry Blueone :) ). With Dr. Su in the CEO chair of course.
 
I don't see how they would ever approve that. Putting everything aside - Lisa Su executed a full turn around. At this point, Pats best case scenario is a turn around a couple of years down the road.

Pat, imo, would be appropriate for a BoD position if that ever became reality. (Sorry Blueone :) ). With Dr. Su in the CEO chair of course.
Lisa Su didn't have to turn foundry around only a design company 🙂
 
It was Trump and Broadcom was Singapore based. Trump is no longer president and Broadcom is no longer Singapore based.

Broadcom Inc. is a global technology leader that designs, develops and supplies a broad range of semiconductor, enterprise software and security solutions. Broadcom’s category-leading product portfolio serves critical markets including cloud, data center, networking, broadband, wireless, storage, industrial and enterprise software. Our solutions include service provider and enterprise networking and storage, mobile device and broadband connectivity, mainframe, cybersecurity and private and hybrid cloud infrastructure. Broadcom is a Delaware corporation headquartered in Palo Alto, CA.
Now trump is president, and Broadcom is US. If broadcom want to buy Intel, he's going to have to outbid Qualcomm.
 
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If it's the majority's agreement among Intel's stakeholders/observers that Pat Gelsinger is the only person who can save Intel, will an AMD-Intel merger force Dr. Lisa Su to leave? How is it possible that AMD existing shareholders will approve such proposal?
Pat G can do whatever he feels like, which is save the foundry, While lisa is good with design. What a match!
 
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