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Former Intel CEO Craig Barrett: Splitting up America’s leading chipmaker is a bad idea

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Throughout the 59-year history of Moore’s Law, the only consistent truth in the semiconductor industry has been that performance wins. Competitors come and go, and new technologies like PCs, smartphones, and artificial intelligence rapidly change the landscape. But in the end, the company with the best technology and ability to manufacture in high volume wins the prize.

For decades, this was Intel. The company’s mantra was to drive technology leadership at all costs and push Moore’s Law to the limit. That’s how Intel became the most successful semiconductor company on the planet, with manufacturing technology consistently one generation (about two years) ahead of everyone else.

During the last decade, this all changed. Intel stumbled and lost its leadership position—and now it’s viewed by some as just another company struggling to survive.

Some pundits think there is a simple solution: split the company into two. That way, their argument goes, the Intel design company can compete with other chip designers (AMD, Qualcomm, NVIDIA, etc.) while the foundry part of the company can be free to serve all chip designers. This simplistic solution ignores the existence of Moore’s Law—and would be bad for Intel and the United States.

Every design company wants the best manufacturing technology available so as to maximize the performance of its chips. This holds true for companies that sell chips on the open market as well as those that design for the internal use of the likes of Apple and Amazon. Whichever foundry has the latest and greatest technology will win the lion’s share of all the chip designer’s business. Today, that position is held by TSMC. Much of the industry relies on the same manufacturer to build their products—their only manufacturing advantage is TSMC’s technology leadership.

Intel can attract these same chip customers by restoring its foundry technology leadership. Even if you compete with Intel designs, why put yourself at a disadvantage? As long as Intel has the best technology and is competitive on price, competitive issues can be resolved.

This is all unfolding at a time when the world needs a more globally diverse and resilient semiconductor supply chain. Geopolitical tensions around the world are escalating, making the urgent need for having a strong U.S. manufacturing capability on our own shores even more pressing.

Splitting Intel into two separate companies wouldn't do the U.S. any good if the Intel design business succeeds and the foundry business does not. In that case, the U.S. would remain dependent on a foreign supplier for leading-edge technology—and the $50 billion in the CHIPS ACT would have been wasted.

We’ve seen this movie before. Years ago, a struggling AMD split off its manufacturing capacity into Global Foundries. Pundits applauded the split at the time. A decade later, AMD is doing well using TSMC, while Global Foundries has little if any differentiated technology. Global Foundries just didn’t have enough research and development (R&D) budget, and with limited production and revenue, struggled to keep up with market leaders.

The economic reality is that it takes massive investment to drive Moore’s Law. In today’s semiconductor industry, only three companies (Intel, Samsung, and TSMC) have sufficient revenue to contend for technology leadership. If you split up Intel, the foundry portion will probably fail because of decreased R&D spending along with the complex realities of splitting up a huge multinational company in the midst of a multiyear turnaround effort.

Instead of wasting time and effort splitting Intel into two separate companies, why not focus on the real issue? The Intel of tomorrow needs to be like the Intel of 15 years ago—the driver and leader of Moore’s Law. That way, you get a win-win scenario with U.S.-based design and manufacturing technology.

This starts with rebuilding Intel’s technology leadership. The current CEO, Pat Gelsinger, has precisely the right strategy and attributes, and he is already driving the right changes.

Intel is on the verge of completing an unprecedented pace of node development to catch up to TSMC. It has taken the lead on next-gen technologies that will shape the semiconductor industry for years to come, such as high NA EUV lithography and backside power delivery. Yes, more work is needed—but this is a good start, and they must keep going.

The U.S. government must do its part as well. This includes increased funding of basic pre-competitive research in semiconductor technology in our research universities and national laboratories. The U.S. has made a small step in this direction with the creation of the National Semiconductor Technology Center, but there is still a ways to go, especially when you consider the NSTC budget for five years is less than what Intel spends annually on R&D.

There are immense challenges as leading manufacturers race to create technologies that combine 100 billion transistors into a piece of silicon the size of a fingernail. These are the most complicated things mankind has ever built, and semiconductor leaders will spend tens of billions of dollars to make it happen.

Let’s not kid ourselves: If the U.S. wants to be a leader in this game once again, simply slicing Intel in half is not the solution. We must be willing to invest and do the hard work of leading Moore’s Law into the future, not waste time rearranging the deck chairs.

I remember a similar time in Intel’s history—the dot-com bubble crash of the early 2000s. Customer demand evaporated. Wall Street said we should have layoffs, close factories, and cut R&D spending. The Intel board agonized over the situation but followed management’s plan to maintain investment in R&D and build new factories. The stock price crashed, but when demand returned, Intel was in a stronger position than before. It wasn’t pretty but it was the right thing to do. Pat Gelsinger is doing the right thing now.

 
The strategy is sound, the armchair critics don’t understand nor appreciate the advantage of being an IDM.

One could argue if Apple had its own fabs it too would have advantages, but that was a story never written.

AMD is an example of what happens when you had neither scale nor leadership and couldn’t viably support leading edge.

Intel if they execute 18A and 14A and get their PDKs and IP in order should have a both scale and leverage leading edge competitively. Let’s hope they have leveraged the Product and Fab relationships better than their past adversary relationship and that the fab has evolved to being customer focused.
 
I cannot help but think that Intel is getting into the same sinkhole AMD found itself before they spun out GlobalFoundries.

AMD after the success of K7 had huge issues not being able to satisfy market demand with their available fabs. They could never quite accumulate enough capital to increase their fab operations to a good enough size to fully compete with Intel. Because of this they lost several contracts with major PC OEMs.

Intel just by itself is right now also having trouble funding their fab expansion. Even after they build the fabs which they are currently funding I would not be surprised if they were still outsourcing chiplets. Just making the leading edge chiplets on their fabs for the CPU core chiplet won't cut it. Not enough scale. Does Intel even have plans to fab the GPU chiplets at their own fabs?

I think were it not for the US government putting its thumb on the scales, Intel would be headed the same way AMD did.
 
I cannot help but think that Intel is getting into the same sinkhole AMD found itself before they spun out GlobalFoundries.

AMD after the success of K7 had huge issues not being able to satisfy market demand with their available fabs. They could never quite accumulate enough capital to increase their fab operations to a good enough size to fully compete with Intel. Because of this they lost several contracts with major PC OEMs.

Intel just by itself is right now also having trouble funding their fab expansion. Even after they build the fabs which they are currently funding I would not be surprised if they were still outsourcing chiplets. Just making the leading edge chiplets on their fabs for the CPU core chiplet won't cut it. Not enough scale. Does Intel even have plans to fab the GPU chiplets at their own fabs?

I think were it not for the US government putting its thumb on the scales, Intel would be headed the same way AMD did.
Either way, it's way too late for US government to get into involve now. Intel need to be creative, and think of an alternate solution, a business plan that turn the ship. Building fabs is a time-consuming but also expensive tasks. Intel during Criag era can afford, but now it really can't unless they have Apple profit but that ain't happening at any time in the next 10~20 years.
 
Given Intel's recent issues it is easy to forget that they were able to afford their fabs and build more up (Fab42 and Fab34) until the last couple of years despite milking 14nm for the better part of a decade. Their decision to move production to TSMC was necessary to keep their products relative, but it was still a deal with the devil. Without the wafers to fill the fabs, those fabs are a millstone around Intel's neck. They need to design competitive products (which I think Arrow Lake is for now since Zen 5 is having issues as well) and pull those products back into their own fabs to stem the bleeding.

As has been said here many times it all comes down to 18A. If the process is close to TSMC they can make products in-house that will be comparable to what they can make at TSMC. That will allow Intel to reduce the losses from the fabs. Hopefully that buys them the time they need to land foundry customers. I don't think they need to dominate the foundry market, but they need more volume than they can generate on their own. With foundry customers they can build out more fabs and improve their scale with the accompanying improvement to their financials.

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"Intel can attract these same chip customers by restoring its foundry technology leadership. Even if you compete with Intel designs, why put yourself at a disadvantage? As long as Intel has the best technology and is competitive on price, competitive issues can be resolved."

Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.

It isn't just about the technology that attracts foundry customers, it is the ecosystem and trust. If I had to pick a number of years before Intel Foundry had the ecosystem and trust to squarely compete with TSMC I would say 10 years so IFS isn't even half way there.

Intel needs to pivot and attack the market in a different way because taking on TSMC in a fair fight is not working. Time to take off the boxing gloves and do something strategic. Be proactive not reactive. Skate to where the puck is going not where it has been. Right now Intel is a follower, following TSMC. When in the history of Intel have they been a follower?
 
"Intel can attract these same chip customers by restoring its foundry technology leadership. Even if you compete with Intel designs, why put yourself at a disadvantage? As long as Intel has the best technology and is competitive on price, competitive issues can be resolved."

Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.

It isn't just about the technology that attracts foundry customers, it is the ecosystem and trust. If I had to pick a number of years before Intel Foundry had the ecosystem and trust to squarely compete with TSMC I would say 10 years so IFS isn't even half way there.

Intel needs to pivot and attack the market in a different way because taking on TSMC in a fair fight is not working. Time to take off the boxing gloves and do something strategic. Be proactive not reactive. Skate to where the puck is going not where it has been. Right now Intel is a follower, following TSMC. When in the history of Intel have they been a follower?
I think US should rely on tariffs if necessary.
 
I think US should rely on tariffs if necessary.
So everyone buying TSMC silicon would be paying an extra tax to subsidize Intel until they got back up on their feet? I personally would be willing to pay an extra 20 to 30 bucks for my next iPhone towards this cause. I doubt the rest of the population, would.
 
Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.

It isn't just about the technology that attracts foundry customers, it is the ecosystem and trust. If I had to pick a number of years before Intel Foundry had the ecosystem and trust to squarely compete with TSMC I would say 10 years so IFS isn't even half way there.
I think ease of use is a factor here too. Intel took longer than expected to get their PDK 1.0 out to customers. It is my impression that TSMC was way ahead of them on getting PDK 1.0 to their customers. I've also heard various comments that seem to indicate that Intel's PDK is not as polished as TSMC's. So being the best technology is necessary but not sufficient.

And if it was my farm there is no way I bet the whole thing on Intel at this point. They have had 4 good years of TD. While I would certainly throw them a bone to keep them in the game based on 18A (I feel like that is what Amazon and Microsoft have done here), I want to see 14A and the next technode after that. I would also want to see earlier PDK 1.0 releases that are at least close to the quality of TSMC. At that point, I think tech leadership starts to sway my decision. Best case that is 5 years. I could easily see it taking the 10 years you are guessing to get a large commitment.

Again, I think Intel's immediate need is to get enough volume to allow them to afford the R&D costs that will keep them at the bleeding edge. They don't need to be the foundry of choice, they just need to hit that magic volume threshold.

I'll freely admit I have no idea how much external volume that works out to.
 
The strategy is sound, the armchair critics don’t understand nor appreciate the advantage of being an IDM.

One could argue if Apple had its own fabs it too would have advantages, but that was a story never written.

AMD is an example of what happens when you had neither scale nor leadership and couldn’t viably support leading edge.

Intel if they execute 18A and 14A and get their PDKs and IP in order should have a both scale and leverage leading edge competitively. Let’s hope they have leveraged the Product and Fab relationships better than their past adversary relationship and that the fab has evolved to being customer focused.
In fact Intel’s strategy is anything but sound, otherwise the company wouldn’t be in deep troubles they are firmly stuck in now. I think it is too narrow of a view to attribute all Intel problems to technology. In fact it can be shown how Intel’s technical shortcomings are rooted in the company’s strategic, leadership, and cultural problems. I believe Intel will either be forced to change the CEO and shake up their inefficient board of directors, or will get acquired, or if nothing happens, it will fall into oblivion.
 
Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.
It would be interesting to see an analysis of the design rule differences between the TSMC processes and 18A. If 18A was, as I suspect, really developed for high performance CPU tiles, and the TSMC processes are much more SoC focused, it could be that designing for both 18A and N2 could entail significant additional costs. Throw in the trust aspect, and perhaps IP availability and reliability, and it could be easy to understand the 99% figure even if 18A really is superior in multiple ways.
 
I cannot help but think that Intel is getting into the same sinkhole AMD found itself before they spun out GlobalFoundries.

AMD after the success of K7 had huge issues not being able to satisfy market demand with their available fabs. They could never quite accumulate enough capital to increase their fab operations to a good enough size to fully compete with Intel. Because of this they lost several contracts with major PC OEMs.
I'm still waiting for the rumored Chartered Semiconductor K7/K8 chips that one of the earlier AMD CEOs said was coming :p

Intel does seem to be positioned to avoid this capacity trap though with a combo of TSMC fabs and internal capacity; as well as being able to use chiplets/tiles today. Imagine a K8 design in 2005 where the SoC was separate and produced on an older node, freeing up a lot of capacity on the advanced fab.
 
In fact Intel’s strategy is anything but sound, otherwise the company wouldn’t be in deep troubles they are firmly stuck in now. I think it is too narrow of a view to attribute all Intel problems to technology. In fact it can be shown how Intel’s technical shortcomings are rooted in the company’s strategic, leadership, and cultural problems. I believe Intel will either be forced to change the CEO and shake up their inefficient board of directors, or will get acquired, or if nothing happens, it will fall into oblivion.

Careful to mix strategy and technical execution as a root cause.

While Intel definitely has some strategic opportunities (they're well documented), they'd be doing a LOT better if they had actual decent execution vs the plan these past several years. We'd be having a different discussion if Intel had released server CPUs on time instead of years late, or if they pivoted more quickly when 10nm was failing. Even the current products are leaving performance on the table because they couldn't execute all of the desired changes in time for launch (Sapphire/Granite Rapids).
 
I think US should rely on tariffs if necessary.
I think tariffs are a decent idea. Nothing too crazy just something modest to blunt a bit of TSMC’s pricing advantage while also strongly incentivizing them to stop keeping AZ at only trailing edge. It would also be a shot across the bow of fabless TSMC customers to hedge their bets.
 
"Intel can attract these same chip customers by restoring its foundry technology leadership. Even if you compete with Intel designs, why put yourself at a disadvantage? As long as Intel has the best technology and is competitive on price, competitive issues can be resolved."

Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.

It isn't just about the technology that attracts foundry customers, it is the ecosystem and trust. If I had to pick a number of years before Intel Foundry had the ecosystem and trust to squarely compete with TSMC I would say 10 years so IFS isn't even half way there.

Intel needs to pivot and attack the market in a different way because taking on TSMC in a fair fight is not working. Time to take off the boxing gloves and do something strategic. Be proactive not reactive. Skate to where the puck is going not where it has been. Right now Intel is a follower, following TSMC. When in the history of Intel have they been a follower?
To be equal why would anyone leave TSMC, even for a 5% PPAC possibility why would you ? Go with the trusted supplier is the only choice except if you have some other overriding reason to risk it all.

In history it takes minimum of 10% or more to make people move either on price or quality or performance. 10% area or preference is a huge thing at these nodes and Intel is coming from behind without any ecosystem. Momentum is all with TSMC for all the fabless for the next decade.

As for Intel what other choice did they have? Fold up TD and layoff 10K in Hillsboro, skinny it down to an IBM like org. What would become of all their legacy fabs once they did this.

Pat I think has the right strategy, as to if they are executing is to be seen. Another fundamental huge pivot they must happen is how culture and operations are changing to compete against TSMC which is like the Borg. A few months lead in schedule or few % in performance or one or two design features may make difference to their internal design teams maybe, but to other whales that are doing so well with TSMC makes no sense to change.
 
When in the history of Intel have they been a follower?
For fabrication that's a valid question. In the design groups, Intel has been a trailer again and again. AMD was first to a 64bit x86 processor. Intel trailed AMD in CPU memory controller integration, which cost them significant server CPU marketshare until Nehalem was released. Intel was also late to PCI-X support, though they redeemed themselves later by inventing PCIe.
 
For fabrication that's a valid question. In the design groups, Intel has been a trailer again and again. AMD was first to a 64bit x86 processor. Intel trailed AMD in CPU memory controller integration, which cost them significant server CPU marketshare until Nehalem was released. Intel was also late to PCI-X support, though they redeemed themselves later by inventing PCIe.
Intel didn’t get to parity in process till maybe 0.5um, they were late to Copper but from then on their scale and virtuous cycle of x86 upgrades allowed them to develop a process cadence that crushed IBM, AMD, DEC, Motorola, pretty much everyone. TSMC became the go to consolidator of fab manufacturing and then their FUBAR decision around x86 and passing on mobile, Itanium, Larabee, Tejas debacles along with 10nm. Their failure there was to be so far ahead of EUV and desire to lead on process density killed them.

To much arrogance and flawed decision making process developed from insular leadership over decades that is not changed one bit still
 
Intel didn’t get to parity in process till maybe 0.5um,
Intel was the process leader in the early xRAM industry as well. I guess they also invested EPROMs (but I am not old enough to know how significant that is/was). What I do know was a big deal is that intel was the initial firm to take the leap from bipolar to MOS.
they were late to Copper
Very true. Although I guess it didn't really matter because intel's 180nm came out right with everyone else's and wasn't if memory serves really slower than AMD's 180nm. But regardless definitively late on Cu (the process technology) even if i180nm (process node) had a TTM right in line with the IDMs they were competing with for process technology leadership. Funnily enough even though intel was late on Cu, my understanding is that intel were first to adopt CMP back in like the 80s for funnily enough W polishes (living on the leading edge of process equipment has historically not been in intel's MO, so something of a rare win there).
but from then on their scale and virtuous cycle of x86 upgrades allowed them to develop a process cadence that crushed IBM, AMD, DEC, Motorola, pretty much everyone. TSMC became the go to consolidator of fab manufacturing and then their FUBAR decision around x86 and passing on mobile, Itanium, Larabee, Tejas debacles along with 10nm. Their failure there was to be so far ahead of EUV and desire to lead on process density killed them.
A good high level assessment.
To much arrogance and flawed decision making process developed from insular leadership over decades that is not changed one bit still
Disagree. It is objectively true that intel is not insular like they were. Old Intel has also never learned from competition (other than during the 80s when you had CB go to Japan and force SPC and data driven methodologies upon TMG). Now if you think the reforging at TMG is too little too late, I won't argue with you on that given how subjective/uncertain this matter is . With that said, I don't see how anyone can look at the intel of today and say "nothing has changed in TMG".
 
"Intel can attract these same chip customers by restoring its foundry technology leadership. Even if you compete with Intel designs, why put yourself at a disadvantage? As long as Intel has the best technology and is competitive on price, competitive issues can be resolved."

Quite a few customers evaluated Intel 18A yet they were not able to break away from TSMC. Listen to Intel: They have superior performance, Intel has BSPD, Intel has superior packaging, yet 99% of customers are designing to TSMC N3 and TSMC N2.

It isn't just about the technology that attracts foundry customers, it is the ecosystem and trust. If I had to pick a number of years before Intel Foundry had the ecosystem and trust to squarely compete with TSMC I would say 10 years so IFS isn't even half way there.

Intel needs to pivot and attack the market in a different way because taking on TSMC in a fair fight is not working. Time to take off the boxing gloves and do something strategic. Be proactive not reactive. Skate to where the puck is going not where it has been. Right now Intel is a follower, following TSMC. When in the history of Intel have they been a follower?

"But in the end, the company with the best technology and ability to manufacture in high volume wins the prize."

Reading Craig Barrett’s comments is like reading a summary of Intel's ideology and logical approach. He completely omits the impact of the Microsoft-Intel alliance and the monopoly power that generated substantial revenue and profits, which enabled Intel’s business to thrive.

Mr. Barrett asserts that 'the company with the best technology and ability to manufacture in high volume wins the prize.' However, he overlooks the success of many fabless companies that own no fabs yet perform remarkably well. If an internal fab were essential for a semiconductor design company to succeed, Intel would likely be in a much stronger position today.

When the industry and market shifted, Microsoft and other major players adapted and moved forward, while Intel did not. Now, as the train and its passengers have already left the station, Intel remains a lone passenger waiting at the station, still believing it was the first to arrive at the station.

When Craig Barrett and/or his team at Intel declined the invitation to become one of TSMC’s founding investors 38 years ago, it was likely due to the same logic he holds today.
 
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