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Xi Jinping admits China is 'relatively weak' on innovation and needs more talent to dominate the tech 'battlefield'

hist78 said:
I follow Xiaomi EV story closely and laughed on it a little bit. But I felt more sadness than funny on it.

Xiaomi 2023 revenue was $37.4 billion and had more than 32,000 employees. Why such big company shamelessly copied the look of Porsche without any repercussion?

I have to say the PRC/CCP encourages this bad behavior. Worst, the mainland China society is cheering for this bad behavior.

Are ingenuity, creativity, and innovation so dangerous and so meaningless to the world number 3 smartphone maker Xiaomi?

At the same time across the Taiwan Strait, the ROC (Taiwan) shows the world totally opposite to what Xiaomi did. Why?
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Why is it funny or sad?

Was Android a stolen product as the late Steve Jobs asserted?

Did Huawei copy Cisco's router code?

What about between AMD and Intel, I mean back in the Jerry Sanders years. (the word then was being compatible)

Was Tencent's Wechat inspired by Facebook?

Did Facebook turn around and copy features from Tiktok?

And is Amazon now trying to imitate Temu.


PRC/CCP does meddle with too many things, but cars?

They way I see it, when they were 40, 50 years behind, they did copy and steal, but now that they are on more solid footing, they have shown to be plenty innovative, and achieving that despite the PRC/CCP!
 
bilau said:
Why is it funny or sad?

Was Android a stolen product as the late Steve Jobs asserted?

Did Huawei copy Cisco's router code?

What about between AMD and Intel, I mean back in the Jerry Sanders years. (the word then was being compatible)

Was Tencent's Wechat inspired by Facebook?

Did Facebook turn around and copy features from Tiktok?

And is Amazon now trying to imitate Temu.


PRC/CCP does meddle with too many things, but cars?

They way I see it, when they were 40, 50 years behind, they did copy and steal, but now that they are on more solid footing, they have shown to be plenty innovative, and achieving that despite the PRC/CCP!
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Well said! If you are behind and aspire to leadership copying is the fastest way to equivalence.

Anyone who has visited China the past decade saw pirating, coping everywhere. But look at their big cities and you can’t help be impressed by how far they caught up.

Is it our fear that we can’t compete on equal footing or anger of how they have stolen all our ideas and advancements that we now are looking to hinder anything and everything on the tech side from them. We certainly still want to enjoy all the benefits one way of goods and stuff from them
 
BruceA said:
Well said! If you are behind and aspire to leadership copying is the fastest way to equivalence.

Anyone who has visited China the past decade saw pirating, coping everywhere. But look at their big cities and you can’t help be impressed by how far they caught up.

Is it our fear that we can’t compete on equal footing or anger of how they have stolen all our ideas and advancements that we now are looking to hinder anything and everything on the tech side from them. We certainly still want to enjoy all the benefits one way of goods and stuff from them
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1. China has been stealing and copying for over 40 years. The West and Japan were okay with it as long as they could profit from China. The tide has changed even without US sanctions. Businesses smell blood; the "all in China" strategy is no longer viable. Xi's policy changes depend on his mood.

2. Everyone says China has 10 or 20-year plans, that the Chinese are thinking long-term. Is it though? China says "the East is rising and the West is declining," and their "Wolf Warrior" policy barks at everyone. If the Chinese were really smart, they would take Deng Xiaoping's words to heart and lay low. Now that the neoliberal idea of using trade to move China toward democracy has shattered, the pendulum has swung back.

China's rise is no different from how Japan and the Four Asian Tigers rose.
 
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soAsian said:
China's rise is no different from how Japan and the Four Asian Tigers rose.
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It is very different, Japan, Korea had no planning committees, nothing like in China. Chinese state mostly moneybombed the heavy industry up until 2020, not light industry
 
Paul2 said:
It is very different, Japan, Korea had no planning committees, nothing like in China. Chinese state mostly moneybombed the heavy industry up until 2020, not light industry
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Planning committee? Not the current CCP; it's one man and the king's men running the show. The current China is vastly different from the old China.
 
soAsian said:
Planning committee? Not the current CCP; it's one man and the king's men running the show. The current China is vastly different from the old China.
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The planning committee is very much in charge as is the military mobilization organs
 
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