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Musk plans Tesla mega AI chip fab, mulls potential Intel partnership

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) -CEO Elon Musk on Thursday said Tesla (TSLA) probably will have to build "a gigantic chip fab" to make artificial intelligence chips and publicly mused the EV maker could work with Intel (INTC).

Tesla is designing its fifth-generation AI chip to power its autonomous ambitions, and Musk at the company's annual meeting laid out potential manufacturing plans.

"You know, maybe we'll, we'll do something with Intel," Musk said to a cheering ‌crowd of Tesla shareholders. "We haven't signed any deal, but it's probably worth having discussions with Intel."

Struggling U.S. chipmaker Intel has its own chipmaking factories, but has lagged far behind Nvidia in the AI chip race. The U.S. government recently took a 10% stake in Intel, which needs to find an external customer for its newest manufacturing technology. ⁠Intel shares popped 3% in premarket ‌trading Friday on Musk's remarks.

Intel declined to comment.

Musk scored an important victory on Thursday as shareholders approved a $1 trillion pay package over the next decade, endorsing his vision of morphing the EV maker into ‍an AI and robotics juggernaut.

Musk has teased the AI5 chip before and reiterated that Tesla was also partnering with Taiwan's TSMC and South Korea's Samsung. The AI chips power Tesla's autonomous driving systems, including the Full Self-Driving software. Tesla is currently on its fourth-generation chip.

A small number of AI5 units would be produced in 2026, with high volume production only possible in 2027, ‌Musk said in an X post on Tuesday, adding that AI6 will use the same fabs but achieve roughly twice the performance with volume production mid-2028.

"Even when we extrapolate the best-case scenario for chip production from our suppliers, it's still not enough," he said on Thursday.

"So I think we may have to do a Tesla terafab. It's like giga but way bigger. I can't see any other way to get to the volume of chips that we're looking for.⁠ So I think we're probably going to have to build a gigantic chip fab. It's got to be done," he said.

Musk, who often talks about his vision for the company in abstract terms, did not offer details of how such a fab would be built, but he said that it would make at least 100,‍000 wafer starts per month. ⁠A wafer start is the measurement of the output of a semiconductor wafer plant.

He did say the chip would be inexpensive, power-efficient and optimized for Tesla's own software. This chip would probably consume about a third of the ⁠power used by Nvidia's flagship Blackwell chip, at 10% of the cost to make, Musk said.

"I'm super hardcore on chips right ‌now as you may be able to tell," he said. "I have chips on the ‌brain."

 
If you believe the media the Samsung 2nm fab in Texas is in serious trouble. Also, the Samsung 2nm wafer prices are ridiculously low so how can Samsung make any money? Intel would be a great partner for Musk ventures. Go Lip-Bu!
 
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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) -CEO Elon Musk on Thursday said Tesla (TSLA) probably will have to build "a gigantic chip fab" to make artificial intelligence chips and publicly mused the EV maker could work with Intel (INTC).

Tesla is designing its fifth-generation AI chip to power its autonomous ambitions, and Musk at the company's annual meeting laid out potential manufacturing plans.

"You know, maybe we'll, we'll do something with Intel," Musk said to a cheering ‌crowd of Tesla shareholders. "We haven't signed any deal, but it's probably worth having discussions with Intel."

Struggling U.S. chipmaker Intel has its own chipmaking factories, but has lagged far behind Nvidia in the AI chip race. The U.S. government recently took a 10% stake in Intel, which needs to find an external customer for its newest manufacturing technology. ⁠Intel shares popped 3% in premarket ‌trading Friday on Musk's remarks.

Intel declined to comment.

Musk scored an important victory on Thursday as shareholders approved a $1 trillion pay package over the next decade, endorsing his vision of morphing the EV maker into ‍an AI and robotics juggernaut.

Musk has teased the AI5 chip before and reiterated that Tesla was also partnering with Taiwan's TSMC and South Korea's Samsung. The AI chips power Tesla's autonomous driving systems, including the Full Self-Driving software. Tesla is currently on its fourth-generation chip.

A small number of AI5 units would be produced in 2026, with high volume production only possible in 2027, ‌Musk said in an X post on Tuesday, adding that AI6 will use the same fabs but achieve roughly twice the performance with volume production mid-2028.

"Even when we extrapolate the best-case scenario for chip production from our suppliers, it's still not enough," he said on Thursday.

"So I think we may have to do a Tesla terafab. It's like giga but way bigger. I can't see any other way to get to the volume of chips that we're looking for.⁠ So I think we're probably going to have to build a gigantic chip fab. It's got to be done," he said.

Musk, who often talks about his vision for the company in abstract terms, did not offer details of how such a fab would be built, but he said that it would make at least 100,‍000 wafer starts per month. ⁠A wafer start is the measurement of the output of a semiconductor wafer plant.

He did say the chip would be inexpensive, power-efficient and optimized for Tesla's own software. This chip would probably consume about a third of the ⁠power used by Nvidia's flagship Blackwell chip, at 10% of the cost to make, Musk said.

"I'm super hardcore on chips right ‌now as you may be able to tell," he said. "I have chips on the ‌brain."


""So I think we may have to do a Tesla terafab. It's like giga but way bigger. I can't see any other way to get to the volume of chips that we're looking for.⁠ So I think we're probably going to have to build a gigantic chip fab. It's got to be done," he said."

Is that even possible or is Elon Musk just joking? 🤔🤔
 
Sam Altman said the same thing a while ago:


Elon is chasing Sam Altman. It seems like a really good fit for Intel Foundry but I would get the money in advance. Elon can have the Ohio fabs.
 
Sam Altman said the same thing a while ago:


Elon is chasing Sam Altman. It seems like a really good fit for Intel Foundry but I would get the money in advance. Elon can have the Ohio fabs.

I thought Elon Musk and Sam Altman were suing each other. Have they put each other’s names back on their birthday party guest lists again?
 
He did say the chip would be inexpensive, power-efficient and optimized for Tesla's own software. This chip would probably consume about a third of the ⁠power used by Nvidia's flagship Blackwell chip, at 10% of the cost to make, Musk said.
I find it concerning that he is referencing Blackwell. I'm not sure how anyone makes money on a chip that is 1/10th the cost of Blackwell unless it is much smaller and, therefore, has much less performance than Blackwell. But if that is the case, why reference Blackwell at all?
 
Elon is chasing Sam Altman. It seems like a really good fit for Intel Foundry but I would get the money in advance. Elon can have the Ohio fabs.
Yes and No --

He certainly doesn't want to lose to Sam at OpenAI, but Tesla has real world applications that also require a large # of chips in the field. Tesla needs a lot of silicon for autonomous driving and AI robots in addition to (+xAI) data center, while OpenAI so far is focused on data center only.

Happy to be corrected, but Altman is focused on getting to intelligence, while Musk is focused on intelligence + physical applications.
 
Yes and No --

He certainly doesn't want to lose to Sam at OpenAI, but Tesla has real world applications that also require a large # of chips in the field. Tesla needs a lot of silicon for autonomous driving and AI robots in addition to (+xAI) data center, while OpenAI so far is focused on data center only.

Happy to be corrected, but Altman is focused on getting to intelligence, while Musk is focused on intelligence + physical applications.

Agree 100%. I use Grok, it is better than ChatGPT for what I do. If you consider the amount of data Elon Musk ventures take in it seems like a huge AI advantage. I'm sure Lip-Bu knows this and will court Elon accordingly. Tesla taking a stake in Intel is probably on the table. GO INTEL!
 
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