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Samsung Galaxy Snapdragon Costs Rise 29%

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Snapdragon 8 Elite costs rise 29% compared to 2024
Exynos 2600 yields about 40% vs. TSMC 60%
All Galaxy phones but Ultra to use Exynos 2600 in 2026

Samsung may be preparing to lean more heavily on its in-house silicon for the upcoming Galaxy S26 series, with a new report suggesting a cost-driven return to Exynos processors. Qualcomm’s rising prices, combined with TSMC’s higher production costs for 3nm chips, have put extra pressure on Samsung’s margins. By relying more on its own 2nm Exynos, built at Samsung’s foundry, the company could cut costs significantly while still offering competitive performance thanks to a 10-core CPU design and improved power efficiency.

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Here's why Samsung is choosing Exynos 2600 over Snapdragon 8 Elite 2 for Galaxy S26 series - Gizmochina

The move comes as Samsung faces higher component expenses. In the first half of 2025, chipset procurement costs for its DX division reportedly rose 29.2%, largely due to pricier Snapdragon 8 Elite chips used in the Galaxy S25 series and the popular Galaxy Z Fold 7.
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Exynos 2600 Prototype Mass Production began in June

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Samsung Says Its Exynos 2600 Will Be The Company’s First 2nm GAA Chipset, But Only Says That Its NPU Performance Will Deliver Significant Improvements Compared To The Previous-Generation SoC

When asked about the Exynos 2600, Samsung says that the latter will be its first chipset mass produced on the 2nm GAA process
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Samsung and Qualcomm used to have a deal. Qualcomm would use Samsung Foundry and Samsung would use QCOM SoCs in their products. This broke at 10nm. Samsung started selling QCOM good die rather than wafers due to historically low yields. When the Samsung 10nm PR went out claiming HVM they were at 8% yield with QCOM. Samsung 7nm went well but yield again faltered at 5nm, and 3nm was horrible. Qualcomm of course embraced TSMC thus the Samsung shift to internal SOCs.

I do wonder if the SoC makes that big of a difference? How much CPU power do you really need to scroll, record, and text? I know AI is supposed to change all of that but will it really? China is making AI light and easy, I'm sure Samsung could as well.
 
benb said:
Snapdragon 8 Elite costs rise 29% compared to 2024
Exynos 2600 yields about 40% vs. TSMC 60%
All Galaxy phones but Ultra to use Exynos 2600 in 2026

Samsung may be preparing to lean more heavily on its in-house silicon for the upcoming Galaxy S26 series, with a new report suggesting a cost-driven return to Exynos processors. Qualcomm’s rising prices, combined with TSMC’s higher production costs for 3nm chips, have put extra pressure on Samsung’s margins. By relying more on its own 2nm Exynos, built at Samsung’s foundry, the company could cut costs significantly while still offering competitive performance thanks to a 10-core CPU design and improved power efficiency.

www.gizmochina.com

Here's why Samsung is choosing Exynos 2600 over Snapdragon 8 Elite 2 for Galaxy S26 series - Gizmochina

The move comes as Samsung faces higher component expenses. In the first half of 2025, chipset procurement costs for its DX division reportedly rose 29.2%, largely due to pricier Snapdragon 8 Elite chips used in the Galaxy S25 series and the popular Galaxy Z Fold 7.
www.gizmochina.com www.gizmochina.com

Exynos 2600 Prototype Mass Production began in June

wccftech.com

Samsung Says Its Exynos 2600 Will Be The Company’s First 2nm GAA Chipset, But Only Says That Its NPU Performance Will Deliver Significant Improvements Compared To The Previous-Generation SoC

When asked about the Exynos 2600, Samsung says that the latter will be its first chipset mass produced on the 2nm GAA process
wccftech.com wccftech.com
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Samsung Galaxy phones will not use Exynos only because they can't and they don't have to. Smartphone business is one of Samsung's cash cows. Samsung has been using a combination of Exynos, Qualcomm, and MediaTek processors for different target markets for a long time.
 
hist78 said:
Samsung Galaxy phones will not use Exynos only because they can't and they don't have to. Smartphone business is one of Samsung's cash cows. Samsung has been using a combination of Exynos, Qualcomm, and MediaTek processors for different target markets for a long time.
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True, from what I remember in South Korea it was Samsung chips. The other regions were a mix depending on the competition. Maybe Taiwan is MediaTek and the US is QCOM?
 
Daniel Nenni said:
Samsung and Qualcomm used to have a deal. Qualcomm would use Samsung Foundry and Samsung would use QCOM SoCs in their products. This broke at 10nm. Samsung started selling QCOM good die rather than wafers due to historically low yields. When the Samsung 10nm PR went out claiming HVM they were at 8% yield with QCOM. Samsung 7nm went well but yield again faltered at 5nm, and 3nm was horrible. Qualcomm of course embraced TSMC thus the Samsung shift to internal SOCs.

I do wonder if the SoC makes that big of a difference? How much CPU power do you really need to scroll, record, and text? I know AI is supposed to change all of that but will it really? China is making AI light and easy, I'm sure Samsung could as well.
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I must tell you that I’ve been suffering from using Pixel phones with Samsung manufactured Google SoCs for a while. I constantly endure the anxiety of the battery running out after just three or four hours of use. It has been this way since the very first day I got my Pixel phone.

This year, Google is switching from Samsung Foundry to TSMC to manufacture the Pixel phone SoCs. I hope I will finally be set free.
 
Daniel Nenni said:
True, from what I remember in South Korea it was Samsung chips. The other regions were a mix depending on the competition. Maybe Taiwan is MediaTek and the US is QCOM?
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Samsung smartphones use various SoCs not only based on geographical regions but also based on price level considerations. For mid to low end models, MediaTek is often a good choice, including models sold in the US market.
 
This year the Flip used Exynos 2500 in all markets while the Fold used Snapdragon. Snapdragon is faster in Geekbench in a head to head comparison.

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So there you have it. First gen Samsung GAA process on the left, vs. highly refined TSMC Finfets on the right.
 
benb said:
This year the Flip used Exynos 2500 in all markets while the Fold used Snapdragon. Snapdragon is faster in Geekbench in a head to head comparison.

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So there you have it. First gen Samsung GAA process on the left, vs. highly refined TSMC Finfets on the right.
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Completely different SOCs but this is Samsung 3nm versus TSMC N3. Interesting considering Samsung 3nm did not yield yet it is slower than TSMC N3 which did yield. I'm guessing the Samsung 2nm comparison with TSMC N2 will be more of the same. Hopefully Elon Musk can help with Samsung 2nm yield because he does live right down the street from the fab.

I used to say exciting times in the semiconductor industry but now I should say entertaining times in the semiconductor industry.
 
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